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DECxchange
Regular Advisor

-RMS-F-PLV, unsupported prolog version

Hello,
I found an extra RZ28 disc drive in our computer room. I wanted to see what was on it before I put it to good use. I mounted the disc (dkb400:) and it appears to be a system disc from long ago, as it is labelled vaxvmssys.

I did a directory on it and found an lmf$license.ldb file in [vms$common.sysexe]. To see what licenses were in this file, I did a lic list/data=dkb400:[vms$common.sysexe]lmf$license.ldb.

Executing this license command resulted in the error, -RMS-F-PLV, ...

I tried to do a convert/reclaim and it just gave me the same error. Then I tried typing the file, got the same error. I tried backing up the file to a save set, restoring it to a different disc/directory, then retried everything, still getting the same error. The file is 36 blocks in size, so apparently, there is still something in the file. Can anybody help with how to restore this file to good health and accessibility? Thanks!
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Wim Van den Wyngaert
Honored Contributor

Re: -RMS-F-PLV, unsupported prolog version

No such file over here but did you try convert/prolog=3 ?

Wim
Wim
Steven Schweda
Honored Contributor
Solution

Re: -RMS-F-PLV, unsupported prolog version

help /message /facility = rms plv

> I mounted the disc (dkb400:) [...]

On what?

Try attaching it to an old VAX?

help CONVERT file /PROLOG

?
Hein van den Heuvel
Honored Contributor

Re: -RMS-F-PLV, unsupported prolog version

>> -RMS-F-PLV, ...

While officiallyy that just means 'unsupport prolog', in practice it tends to mean that the file is hosed.

Your first steps towards understanding should be DIR/FULL and ANAL/RMS
next steps might be DUMP/HEAD/BLOC=COUNT=4
(first block probably shows the corruption, the 4th block woudl have the start of the first data bucket... if any)

If this is a serious problem for you (doesn't sound like it is :-), and you need further help, then please be sure to attach a .TXT file with the output from those commands to a future reply.

>> I tried to do a convert/reclaim

What on earth posessed you to do ever try that? It is a file changing option. You don;t want to use that on anything but a known-to-be-good file, and even then...

HELP/MESSAGE mentions conver/reclaim as a potential victim, not as a solution!

hth,
Hein.
Hoff
Honored Contributor

Re: -RMS-F-PLV, unsupported prolog version

rz28 disks are below what's generally found on eBay these days; these 2.1 GB spindles are not worth the shipping costs.

Whole BA350, BA353 and BA356 shelves go out in the trash.

(There are some free-for-shipping StorageWorks shelves out in comp.os.vms right now.)

In practice, these disks get replaced.

Here, you may well have found out why this particular disk was wandering around your machine room loose; it's a bad disk. INITIALIZE /ERASE the disk and try it. If that fails to clear up the issues here, replace the disk brick. (And with a disk as old as an RZ28, I'd not expect much.)

DECxchange
Regular Advisor

Re: -RMS-F-PLV, unsupported prolog version

To answer Steven's question, I mounted the disc on an Alpha DEC3000 Model 600, running OpenVMS 8.3. Since the disc has the label, AXPVMSSYS, I did not believe that is was a VAX system. Anyway, here is some output from all of your many suggestions to try:

Welcome to OpenVMS Alpha Operating System, Version V8.3

19-AUG-2008 13:13:50.93
$ set def dkb400:[vms$common.sysexe]
$ dir *.ldb

Directory DKB400:[VMS$COMMON.SYSEXE]

LMF$LICENSE.LDB;1

Total of 1 file.
$ dir/full dkb400:[000000...]*.ldb

Directory DKB400:[VMS$COMMON.SYSEXE]

LMF$LICENSE.LDB;1 File ID: (5981,22,0)
Size: 36/36 Owner: [1,1]
Created: 27-APR-1998 17:03:21.88
Revised: 27-APR-1998 17:03:24.10 (1)
Expires:
Backup:
Effective:
Recording:
Accessed:
Attributes:
Modified:
Linkcount: 1
File organization: Indexed
Shelved state: Online
Caching attribute: Writethrough
File attributes: Allocation: 36, Extend: 0, Maximum bucket size: 16, Global b
uffer count: 0
No version limit
Record format: Fixed length 512 byte records
Record attributes: Carriage return carriage control
RMS attributes: None
Journaling enabled: None
File protection: System:RWED, Owner:RWED, Group:RE, World:
Access Cntrl List: None
Client attributes: None

Total of 1 file, 36/36 blocks.
$ sh def
DKB400:[VMS$COMMON.SYSEXE]
$ convert/prolog=3 lmf$license.ldb aa.ldb
%CONV-F-OPENIN, error opening DKB400:[VMS$COMMON.SYSEXE]LMF$LICENSE.LDB;1 as inp
ut
-RMS-F-PLV, unsupported prolog version
$ help/message


OPENIN, error opening 'input-file-spec' as input

Facility: Shared by several facilities

Explanation: The specified input file cannot be opened.

User Action: Make sure the file exists and is accessible, or take action
based on an accompanying message.














$ analyze/rms lmf$license.ldb













Check RMS File Integrity 19-AUG-2008 13:32:37.69 Page 1
DKB400:[VMS$COMMON.SYSEXE]LMF$LICENSE.LDB;1


FILE HEADER

File Spec: DKB400:[VMS$COMMON.SYSEXE]LMF$LICENSE.LDB;1
File ID: (5981,22,0)
Owner UIC: [1,1]
Protection: System: RWED, Owner: RWED, Group: RE, World:
Creation Date: 27-APR-1998 17:03:21.88
Revision Date: 27-APR-1998 17:03:24.10, Number: 1
Expiration Date: none specified
Backup Date: none posted
Contiguity Options: none
Performance Options: none
Reliability Options: none
Journaling Enabled: none


RMS FILE ATTRIBUTES

File Organization: indexed
Record Format: fixed
Record Attributes: carriage-return
Maximum Record Size: 512
Longest Record: 512
Blocks Allocated: 36, Default Extend Size: 0
Bucket Size: 16
File Monitoring: disabled
Global Buffer Count pre-V8.3: 0
Global Buffer Count post-V8.3: 0
Global Buffer Flags post-V8.3: none


FIXED PROLOG

Number of Areas: 0, VBN of First Descriptor: 0
Prolog Version: 0
*** VBN 1: Information for locating area descriptors from prolog is invalid.
Unrecoverable error encountered in structure of file.


The analysis uncovered 1 error.


ANALYZE/RMS LMF$LICENSE.LDB
$
$
$
$
$ dump/header/bloc=count=4 lmf$license.ldb

















Dump of file DKB400:[VMS$COMMON.SYSEXE]LMF$LICENSE.LD on 19-AUG-2008 13:33:38.81
B;1
File ID (5981,22,0) End of file block 36 / Allocated 36

File Header

Header area
Identification area offset: 40
Map area offset: 100
Access control area offset: 255
Reserved area offset: 255
Extension segment number: 0
Structure level and version: 2, 1
File identification: (5981,22,0)
Extension file identification: (0,0,0)
VAX-11 RMS attributes
Record type: Fixed
File organization: Indexed
Record attributes: Implied carriage control
Record size: 512
Highest block: 36
End of file block: 37
End of file byte: 0
Bucket size: 16
Fixed control area size: 0
Maximum record size: 512
Default extension size: 0
Global buffer count: 0
Directory version limit: 0
File characteristics:
Caching attribute: Writethrough
Map area words in use: 8
Access mode: 0
File owner UIC: [1,1]
File protection: S:RWED, O:RWED, G:RE, W:
Back link file identification: (16,1,0)
Journal control flags:
Active recovery units: None
File entry linkcount: 0
Highest block written: 36
Client attributes: None

Identification area
File name: LMF$LICENSE.LDB;1
Revision number: 1
Creation date: 27-APR-1998 17:03:21.88
Revision date: 27-APR-1998 17:03:24.10
Expiration date:
Backup date:

Map area
Retrieval pointers
Count: 4 LBN: 1552
Count: 4 LBN: 314344
Count: 12 LBN: 1568
Count: 16 LBN: 627132

Checksum: 11455














Dump of file DKB400:[VMS$COMMON.SYSEXE]LMF$LICENSE.LD on 19-AUG-2008 13:33:38.81
B;1
File ID (5981,22,0) End of file block 36 / Allocated 36

Virtual block number 1 (00000001), 512 (0200) bytes

00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................ 000000
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................ 000010
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................ 000020
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................ 000030
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................ 000040
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................ 000050
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................ 000060
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................ 000070
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................ 000080
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................ 000090
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................ 0000A0
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................ 0000B0
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................ 0000C0
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................ 0000D0
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................ 0000E0
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................ 0000F0
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................ 000100
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................ 000110
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................ 000120
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................ 000130
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................ 000140
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................ 000150
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................ 000160
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................ 000170
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................ 000180
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................ 000190
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................ 0001A0
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................ 0001B0
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................ 0001C0
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................ 0001D0
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................ 0001E0
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................ 0001F0










Dump of file DKB400:[VMS$COMMON.SYSEXE]LMF$LICENSE.LD on 19-AUG-2008 13:33:38.81
B;1
File ID (5981,22,0) End of file block 36 / Allocated 36

Virtual block number 2 (00000002), 512 (0200) bytes

00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................ 000000
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................ 000010
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................ 000020
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................ 000030
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................ 000040
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................ 000050
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................ 000060
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................ 000070
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................ 000080
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................ 000090
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................ 0000A0
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................ 0000B0
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................ 0000C0
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................ 0000D0
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................ 0000E0
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................ 0000F0
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................ 000100
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................ 000110
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................ 000120
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................ 000130
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................ 000140
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................ 000150
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................ 000160
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................ 000170
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................ 000180
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................ 000190
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................ 0001A0
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................ 0001B0
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................ 0001C0
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................ 0001D0
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................ 0001E0
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................ 0001F0










Dump of file DKB400:[VMS$COMMON.SYSEXE]LMF$LICENSE.LD on 19-AUG-2008 13:33:38.81
B;1
File ID (5981,22,0) End of file block 36 / Allocated 36

Virtual block number 3 (00000003), 512 (0200) bytes

00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................ 000000
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................ 000010
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................ 000020
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................ 000030
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................ 000040
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................ 000050
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................ 000060
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................ 000070
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................ 000080
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................ 000090
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................ 0000A0
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................ 0000B0
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................ 0000C0
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................ 0000D0
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................ 0000E0
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................ 0000F0
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................ 000100
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................ 000110
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................ 000120
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................ 000130
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................ 000140
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................ 000150
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................ 000160
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................ 000170
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................ 000180
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................ 000190
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................ 0001A0
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................ 0001B0
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................ 0001C0
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................ 0001D0
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................ 0001E0
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................ 0001F0










Dump of file DKB400:[VMS$COMMON.SYSEXE]LMF$LICENSE.LD on 19-AUG-2008 13:33:38.81
B;1
File ID (5981,22,0) End of file block 36 / Allocated 36

Virtual block number 4 (00000004), 512 (0200) bytes

00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................ 000000
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................ 000010
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................ 000020
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................ 000030
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................ 000040
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................ 000050
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................ 000060
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................ 000070
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................ 000080
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................ 000090
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................ 0000A0
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................ 0000B0
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................ 0000C0
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................ 0000D0
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................ 0000E0
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................ 0000F0
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................ 000100
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................ 000110
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................ 000120
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................ 000130
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................ 000140
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................ 000150
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................ 000160
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................ 000170
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................ 000180
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................ 000190
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................ 0001A0
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................ 0001B0
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................ 0001C0
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................ 0001D0
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................ 0001E0
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................ 0001F0
$ sh dev dkb400

Device Device Error Volume Free Trans Mnt
Name Status Count Label Blocks Count Cnt
$1$DKB400: (DE3600) Mounted alloc 0 AXPVMSSYS 3127588 1 1
$
DECxchange
Regular Advisor

Re: -RMS-F-PLV, unsupported prolog version

If you have RZxx-VA discs, don't throw them away, I'll take them!

I don't think this is a disc problem. BTW, It looks like somebody deleted the SYS0:

$ dir *.dir

Directory DKB400:[000000]

000000.DIR;1 MPH.DIR;1 SYS0.DIR;1 VMS$COMMON.DIR;1

Total of 4 files.
$ dir [sys0...]
%DIRECT-W-NOFILES, no files found
$ set def [sys0]
$ dir
%DIRECT-E-OPENIN, error opening DKB400:[SYS0]*.*;* as input
-RMS-E-FND, ACP file or directory lookup failed
-SYSTEM-W-BADIRECTORY, bad directory file format
$

I know I can just INIT the disc, but before I do, I was hoping I could find out what was in the .LDB file that is on it.

BTW, there is one site I manage that uses A LOT of RZ28-VA, RZ29x-VA, and DS-RZ1xx-VW type drives. So if you have any of these, I would take them, as long as the shipping is not too much.

And, BTW, those drives are shadowed.
Hein van den Heuvel
Honored Contributor

Re: -RMS-F-PLV, unsupported prolog version

Just like I predicted. The file prologue is corrupted, in this case entirely zeroed out.

Did you actually bother to look at the dump data? There seems little point in posting anything more then 'it turns out that the file contents is zeroes'.
This file data is hosed.
RMS can not invent data out of nothingness.

SOL.

Regards,

Hein.

Hein van den Heuvel
Honored Contributor

Re: -RMS-F-PLV, unsupported prolog version

Ah, I see.

Correct answer wrong tone --> 0 points.
Wrong answer right tone --> 10 points.

:^)

Hein.

Steven Schweda
Honored Contributor

Re: -RMS-F-PLV, unsupported prolog version

> Ah, I see.
> [...]

One of the major defects in the ITRC Forum
points nonsense is that the people awarding
the points are the people who don't know
enough to solve their own problems, and who,
in many cases, can't distinguish a good
answer from a poor one.

Which is one of the reasons I try to avoid
thinking about the whole Forum points
waste-of-time. When HP hires full-time
professional Answer Judges to award the
points (and I'm not holding my breath), I'll
re-examine the situation.
Robert Brooks_1
Honored Contributor

Re: -RMS-F-PLV, unsupported prolog version

First note . . .

I mounted the disc (dkb400:) and it appears to be a system disc from long ago, as it is labelled vaxvmssys.

But later he writes . . .

Since the disc has the label, AXPVMSSYS, I did not believe that is was a VAX system.

---

Hein astutely notes . . .

Ah, I see.

Correct answer wrong tone --> 0 points.
Wrong answer right tone --> 10 points.

--

Well, yeah. ITRC points have about the same value as ACBL masterpoints. See you in Boston, Hein?

-- Rob
DECxchange
Regular Advisor

Re: -RMS-F-PLV, unsupported prolog version

The reason I gave Hein 0 points is because I didn't appreciate the ridicule. Otherwise, I would have awarded him 10 points.
DECxchange
Regular Advisor

Re: -RMS-F-PLV, unsupported prolog version

Correct answers that include ridicule = 0 points.