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Re: Tacking Backup of OpenVMS Disks on Solaris 8

 
Tejas J Raval
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Tacking Backup of OpenVMS Disks on Solaris 8

Hello Friends,

Is it possible to mount OpenVMS disks on Solaris 8 server.

or

Is it is possible to mount solaris Filesystem on OpenVMS server?

Please guide.

Regards,

Tejas
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marsh_1
Honored Contributor

Re: Tacking Backup of OpenVMS Disks on Solaris 8

Tejas,

yes it is possible using NFS, see vms tcpip user guide for details , this link is for v8.3 :-

http://h71000.www7.hp.com/doc/83final/6526/6526pro.HTML

a previous discussion on issues with solaris 9 is here :-

http://forums11.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/questionanswer.do?threadId=705820

good luck.
Wim Van den Wyngaert
Honored Contributor

Re: Tacking Backup of OpenVMS Disks on Solaris 8

Or use backup to disk (/group=0 !), (optionally zip it) and ftp it to Solaris where you take your backup of the save set. This allows a faster backup on VMS (depending on your hardware speed) and speed of FTP is higher than NFS.

Wim
Wim
marsh_1
Honored Contributor

Re: Tacking Backup of OpenVMS Disks on Solaris 8

there is also tar for VMS if you wanted a common backup format , download at :-

http://www.openvms.compaq.com/openvms/freeware/freeware.html
Tejas J Raval
Advisor

Re: Tacking Backup of OpenVMS Disks on Solaris 8

Dear Friends,

Thanks for the information. I will try & update the status.


Regards,

Tejas
Steven Schweda
Honored Contributor

Re: Tacking Backup of OpenVMS Disks on Solaris 8

Which kind of "Backup" do you want? For
which kinds of files?

No UNIX(-like) system will naturally preserve
VMS file attributes, which may be important
for files which do not have Record format:
Stream_LF.

NFS and VMSTAR tend to discard VMS file
attributes, Also, unless you look hard, the
VMSTAR you'll find may not deal well with
file names longer than 100 characters, or
files bigger than 2GB.

BACKUP will, and Zip can, preserve VMS file
attributes. Zip 3.0 and UnZip 6.0 should be
able to handle large files, if your
(unspecified) VMS version is new enough.
BACKUP is pretty safe.

If you were hoping to incorporate VMS data
directly into an existing UNIX backup scheme,
I don't think that it will be so easy. If
you use BACKUP or Zip to preserve the VMS
file attributes, then you'll probably be
dealing with some relatively big data sets,
and you wouldn't be able to restore
individual VMS files directly from a backup
tape. (If by "Backup" you mean "backup to
tape".)

There can be many advantages to having a tape
drive directly available to a VMS system.
Jan van den Ende
Honored Contributor

Re: Tacking Backup of OpenVMS Disks on Solaris 8

Tejas,

from your Forum Profile:


I have assigned points to 0 of 29 responses to my questions.


Maybe you can find some time to do some assigning?

http://forums1.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/helptips.do?#33

Mind, I do NOT say you necessarily need to give lots of points. It is fully up to _YOU_ to decide how many. If you consider an answer is not deserving any points, you can also assign 0 ( = zero ) points, and then that answer will no longer be counted as unassigned.
Consider however, that every poster took at least the trouble of posting for you!

To easily find your streams with unassigned points, click your own name somewhere.
This will bring up your profile.
Near the bottom of that page, under the caption "My Question(s)" you will find "questions or topics with unassigned points " Clicking that will give all, and only, your questions that still have unassigned postings.

Thanks on behalf of your Forum colleagues.

PS. nothing personal in this. I try to post it to everyone with this kind of assignment ratio in this forum. If you have received a posting like this before please do not take offence none is intended!

PPS. Zero points for THIS entry, please.

Proost.

Have one on me.

jpe
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Hoff
Honored Contributor

Re: Tacking Backup of OpenVMS Disks on Solaris 8

Sure.

What's your goal?

I've a port of BACKUP around for Unix (vmsbackup, with some updates for ODS-5), and there's librms available for some file formats.

Adding storage onto an OpenVMS box or onto a LAN is pretty cheap these days; whether that's a solution here depends on why you're doing this. (And that's why I ask that some background be provided with the questions.)

OpenVMS, for instance, can use storage on some of the small business or consumer-grade NAS controllers (those with FTP or NFS), and the availability of the 1.0 and 1.5 terabyte disk spindles are keeping the asking prices of most of the used StorageWorks shelves and disk spindles on the used-equipment market quite low.)

--

Mr Turing wonders if that reply was posting from the ITRC no-points bot (NPB), or does Jan really exist? :-)
Hoff
Honored Contributor

Re: Tacking Backup of OpenVMS Disks on Solaris 8

Upon reading my earlier reply, here's a correction: vmsbackup is NOT a port of BACKUP itself. It's a port of some of the BACKUP features. It's an open-source C application that is media-compatible with and that allows reading the contents of BACKUP savesets on Mac OS X and other Unix platforms. The tool itself was written some years ago, and has seen some recent updates.
Tom O'Toole
Respected Contributor

Re: Tacking Backup of OpenVMS Disks on Solaris 8


If you have capable storage, you might be able to take a snapshot of the disks you want to backup and do a physical backup to tape (e.g. using dd if your backup server is unix, or physical backup if your backup system is vms)... works great!
Can you imagine if we used PCs to manage our enterprise systems? ... oops.