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Thanks again, Guy!

 
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Jan van den Ende
Honored Contributor

Thanks again, Guy!


Hi all,

check this out:

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/comp.os.vms/browse_thread/thread/ef1f0f81acab781a/5fc655d392b6e736#5fc655d392b6e736

I think it's great, and I DO second the backporting suggestion!

Proost.

Have one on me.

Jan
Don't rust yours pelled jacker to fine doll missed aches.
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Uwe Zessin
Honored Contributor

Re: Thanks again, Guy!

Amazing. I still remember the DECUS Europe session in 1988, wenn the SIRs (System Improvement Requests) were discussed with DEC.

One request was to enhance BACKUP with a CONTROL-T output. The VMS people were not very receptive to this idea, but wrote it down. Apparently, they were more eager to get us all to migrate to VAX/VMS V5.0 ;-)

Well, I was quite surprised to see the enhancement some time later (V5.2, together with the BACKUP 'rewrite', if I remember correctly).

And SEARCH got a similar improvement (V6.1?).
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Bojan Nemec
Honored Contributor

Re: Thanks again, Guy!

Thats great,

No more procedures and programs that spit tons of output lines, only to see the progress. And probably defining a logical name is much faster than writing to a terminal or log file.

Bojan
Kris Clippeleyr
Honored Contributor

Re: Thanks again, Guy!


Indeed a very useful improvement. I certainly gonna make use of it.

As Jan said: thank you very much, Guy.

Kris (aka Qkcl)
I'm gonna hit the highway like a battering ram on a silver-black phantom bike...
Jan van den Ende
Honored Contributor

Re: Thanks again, Guy!

Bojan,

it is not even a Logical name, it is a SYMBOL!
And read the example in some detail, and you will see WHY: a local symbol can be defined differently at EACH execution level, and ^T will show the values of ALL levels!

Proost.

Have one on me.

Jan
Don't rust yours pelled jacker to fine doll missed aches.
Bojan Nemec
Honored Contributor

Re: Thanks again, Guy!

Jan,

You are right (I read the link two hours before posting and early hours do strange things :-). Anyway its a great tool!

Bojan
Willem Grooters
Honored Contributor

Re: Thanks again, Guy!

Good thing, both the devlopment itself AND the backport: Just show what you want to see.
I'vre read the thread in comp.os.vms (thanks Jan for attending us), I like the idea tha David Dachtera putted: make it a bitmask. Hopefully, Guy reads this forum as well since I would like to reserve a few bits for "custom use", which can be usefull in debugging (non-DCL) code (Show me some specified data on ^T)

Willem
Willem Grooters
OpenVMS Developer & System Manager
Guy Peleg
Respected Contributor
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Re: Thanks again, Guy!

I follow this thread as well.

Thank you all for your feedback.

Guy
John Yu_1
Valued Contributor

Re: Thanks again, Guy!

Cool, something else to amaze the junior progs in my group ;-P
Artificial intelligence is rarely a match for natural stupidity.
Jan van den Ende
Honored Contributor

Re: Thanks again, Guy!

Guy,

may I bring this thread under your attention as well?

http://forums1.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/questionanswer.do?threadId=760599


TIA.

Proost.

Have one on me.

Jan
Don't rust yours pelled jacker to fine doll missed aches.
Jan van den Ende
Honored Contributor

Re: Thanks again, Guy!

Guy, another one:

http://forums1.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/questionanswer.do?threadId=716858


(Like they say in Dutch: "Give them a finger, and the will eat your whole hand" :-)

And again, many thanks in advance for all you are doing!

Proost.

Have one on me.

Jan
Don't rust yours pelled jacker to fine doll missed aches.
Antoniov.
Honored Contributor

Re: Thanks again, Guy!

Hello,
User informations by ctrl-t is a great idea!
I'd like some other feature.
- Sometimes might be usefull disable system message.
- In DCL, be able to catch ctrl-t same as ctrl-y; for example ON CONTROL_T THEN ...
I'd like disable "cancel" message after ctrl-y and or ctrl-c.

Antonio Vigliotti
Antonio Maria Vigliotti
Anton van Ruitenbeek
Trusted Contributor

Re: Thanks again, Guy!

Guy,

Many thanks for another useful feature .

As far as we know, you are listening and executing wat we ask. A lot of other college want to add our questions but are hold back by the financial guys. You know how to get around these people, keep this up and going.
We looking forward to the next fine implementation .

AvR
NL: Meten is weten, maar je moet weten hoe te meten! - UK: Measuremets is knowledge, but you need to know how to measure !
Cass Witkowski
Trusted Contributor

Re: Thanks again, Guy!

Guy,

Will you be able to port this to V7.3-2? It may be a while till we get up to 8.2

Thanks

Cass
Guy Peleg
Respected Contributor

Re: Thanks again, Guy!

I need to get internal approval to backport
this to V7.3-2. V8.2 might be easier. My
plan was to try both V7.3-2 and V8.2

More to come soon.

Happy Holidays.

Guy