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08-17-2005 06:50 AM
08-17-2005 06:50 AM
I would like to know on how do you modify a 3 characters VMS account to a 7 characters VMS account and have the UIC reflect the changes as well. For an example:
Username: IJD Owner: Ian J. Derringer
Account: 63 UIC: [50,101] ([IJD])
CLI: DCL Tables: DCLTABLES
Default: DISK5:[USER.IJD]
LGICMD: LOGIN
Thank you in advance.
Ian D.
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08-17-2005 06:54 AM
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08-17-2005 07:08 AM
08-17-2005 07:08 AM
Re: VMS Account
Re: VMS Account
I would use a DCL or perl script to generate a list of those UAF commands with tweaks /like /DEFDIR=[user.new].
I would have that list also include a 'MODI old/DISUSER' and generate a seperate list with 'DELE old' commands to be executed later when all is well.
I would CONVERT/FDL/FAST/STAT after the bulk COPY/ADD and after the DELE at some future time.
hth,
Hein.
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08-17-2005 07:13 AM
08-17-2005 07:13 AM
Re: VMS Account
Re: VMS Account
MODI/MODI (the default anyway) is a good thing to read up on.
Hein.
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08-17-2005 09:32 AM
08-17-2005 09:32 AM
Re: VMS Account
Re: VMS Account
Maybe some confusion here because "Account" in VMS is *not* the same as "Username". The Account for this user is 63. The Identifier IJD has been established for uic [50,101] and there is no group identifier for [50,*] so the alpha uic just shows [IJD].
If you mean you want to change the username to 7 characters and have the identifier changed too, then the MODI/MODI will do that.
If you intend to have more than one person per group, you might want to establish an identifier for group 50, too:
UAF> ADD /IDENT groupname /VALUE=UIC:[50,*]
where groupname is whatever you want to call group 50. It's good to keep all group names unique and different from usernames.
p.s.: Phillip Thayer wasn't a bit confused and should get the 10 points.
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08-17-2005 09:32 AM
08-17-2005 09:32 AM
Re: VMS Account
Re: VMS Account
This is what I did so far;
1. uaf copy IJD IDERRINGER
2. I need to make the UIC looking like this UIC: [50,101] ([IDERRINGER])
NOT UIC: [50,101] ([IJD])
I done this once before but for the life of me, I'm can't seem to remember the command.
Help!!
Thanks, guys!
Ian
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08-17-2005 09:35 AM
08-17-2005 09:35 AM
Re: VMS Account
Re: VMS Account
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08-17-2005 09:38 AM
08-17-2005 09:38 AM
Re: VMS Account
Re: VMS Account
REMOVE IDERRINGER
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08-17-2005 09:46 AM
08-17-2005 09:46 AM
Re: VMS Account
Re: VMS Account
RENAME/MODIF IJD IDERRINGER
instead.
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08-17-2005 11:38 AM
08-17-2005 11:38 AM
Re: VMS Account
Re: VMS Account
RENAME/MODIFY_IDENT IJD IJDERRINGER
Sorry about that one.
Phillip
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08-17-2005 04:13 PM
08-17-2005 04:13 PM
Re: VMS Account
Re: VMS Account
Thanks,
Ian
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08-17-2005 04:29 PM
08-17-2005 04:29 PM
Re: VMS Account
Re: VMS Account
Is the following what you are trying to achieve?
This first bit is just setting up an account...
UAF> copy dsneddon test1/uic=[10,10]
%UAF-I-COPMSG, user record copied
%UAF-W-DEFPWD, copied or renamed records must receive new password
%UAF-I-RDBADDMSGU, identifier TEST1 value [000010,000010] added to rights databa
se
This is what it looks like...
UAF> show test1
Username: TEST1 Owner: David B Sneddon
Account: SYSPROG UIC: [10,10] ([TEST1])
Now we rename it (what you seem to be wanting to do)
UAF> rename test1 test2
%UAF-I-RENMSG, user record renamed
%UAF-W-DEFPWD, copied or renamed records must receive new password
%UAF-I-RDBMDFYMSG, identifier TEST1 modified
And now look at the new one...
UAF> show test2
Username: TEST2 Owner: David B Sneddon
Account: SYSPROG UIC: [10,10] ([TEST2])
Dave
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08-17-2005 05:53 PM
08-17-2005 05:53 PM
Re: VMS Account
Re: VMS Account
Phillip is correct. The best way to do this is the RENAME/MODIFY_IDENTIFIER command within AUTHORIZE.
Watch out for the password change feature. At the end of the HELP text displayed by AUTHORIZE is the admonition:
"When you create a new UAF record with the RENAME command, you must specify a password"
I hope that this clears things up.
- Bob Gezelter, http://www.rlgsc.com
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08-18-2005 12:29 AM
08-18-2005 12:29 AM
Re: VMS Account
Re: VMS Account
If you want to change the username but leave the existing Identifier, the RENAME command with the /MODIFY_IDENTIFIER qualifier omitted or negated would be your choice. Check the HELP text within AUTHORIZE for the whole story.
- Bob Gezelter, http://www.rlgsc.com
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08-18-2005 03:44 AM
08-18-2005 03:44 AM
Re: VMS Account
Re: VMS Account
From the UAF> prompt, enter HELP and then enter the command from the list that you want help on and help will tell you if there is additional help available.
There is no COPY/MODIFY.
If you look at COPY /ADD_IDENT you will see that /ADD is the default, meaning you don't need to specify it if that's the action you want.
Now, the username identifier is associated with the uic. If different users share uic numbers, the first one added to the system will own that association (unless you change it).
If you want to create a new user named IDERRINGER that has all of the settings of IJD but with its own identifier, you will need a unique UIC for IDERRINGER (and a new password).
Use:
UAF> show * /brief
to list the users and see the UIC's that are assigned. Pick one that isn't assigned and use it for IDERRINGER.
example assuming uic [50,102] is unused:
COPY IJD IDERRINGER/UIC=[50,102]/PASS=passwd
I think most of us were confused because you said you wanted to modify the account.
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08-18-2005 05:04 AM
08-18-2005 05:04 AM
Re: VMS Account
Re: VMS Account
Thanks everyone for your feedback on this subject.
Ian
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08-18-2005 08:24 AM
08-18-2005 08:24 AM
Re: VMS Account
Re: VMS Account
COPY IJD IJDERRI/PASS=password
The user would have access to the same account through the new username. You wish to retain the old username.
NOTE: This is not two accounts.
Lawrence
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08-18-2005 09:03 AM
08-18-2005 09:03 AM
Re: VMS Account
Re: VMS Account
If as you said:
>>
I need to make the UIC looking like this UIC: [50,101] ([IDERRINGER])
NOT UIC: [50,101] ([IJD])
<<
then after doing the copy you will need to:
RENAME /IDENT IJD IDERRINGER
because you didn't change the UIC.
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08-18-2005 03:01 PM
08-18-2005 03:01 PM
Re: VMS Account
Re: VMS Account
Thanks everyone!
Ian
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