Greetings, I would like to know on how do you modify a 3 characters VMS account to a 7 characters VMS account and have the UIC reflect the changes as well. For an example: Username: IJD Owner: Ian J. Derringer Account: 63 UIC: [50,101] ([IJD]) CLI: DCL Tables: DCLTABLES Default: DISK5:[USER.IJD] LGICMD: LOGIN
Usernames and Identifiers are PRIMARY KEYS in INDEXED files and as such can not be modified. So you can not use UAF> MODIFY for the username, but need to use UAF> COPY old new. And for the idendifier you need UAF> ADD /IDEN new /VAL=old-id (generating duplicate value messages.
I would use a DCL or perl script to generate a list of those UAF commands with tweaks /like /DEFDIR=[user.new]. I would have that list also include a 'MODI old/DISUSER' and generate a seperate list with 'DELE old' commands to be executed later when all is well.
I would CONVERT/FDL/FAST/STAT after the bulk COPY/ADD and after the DELE at some future time.
Maybe some confusion here because "Account" in VMS is *not* the same as "Username". The Account for this user is 63. The Identifier IJD has been established for uic [50,101] and there is no group identifier for [50,*] so the alpha uic just shows [IJD].
If you mean you want to change the username to 7 characters and have the identifier changed too, then the MODI/MODI will do that.
If you intend to have more than one person per group, you might want to establish an identifier for group 50, too:
UAF> ADD /IDENT groupname /VALUE=UIC:[50,*]
where groupname is whatever you want to call group 50. It's good to keep all group names unique and different from usernames.
p.s.: Phillip Thayer wasn't a bit confused and should get the 10 points.
You guys lost me )-: This is what I did so far; 1. uaf copy IJD IDERRINGER 2. I need to make the UIC looking like this UIC: [50,101] ([IDERRINGER]) NOT UIC: [50,101] ([IJD])
I done this once before but for the life of me, I'm can't seem to remember the command.
Is there a command for copy IJD to IDERRINGER and still keep the original IJD account intact? Can I use this command COPY/MODIFY_IDENT IJD IJDERRINGER??
UAF> copy dsneddon test1/uic=[10,10] %UAF-I-COPMSG, user record copied %UAF-W-DEFPWD, copied or renamed records must receive new password %UAF-I-RDBADDMSGU, identifier TEST1 value [000010,000010] added to rights databa se
This is what it looks like...
UAF> show test1
Username: TEST1 Owner: David B Sneddon Account: SYSPROG UIC: [10,10] ([TEST1])
Now we rename it (what you seem to be wanting to do)
UAF> rename test1 test2 %UAF-I-RENMSG, user record renamed %UAF-W-DEFPWD, copied or renamed records must receive new password %UAF-I-RDBMDFYMSG, identifier TEST1 modified
And now look at the new one...
UAF> show test2
Username: TEST2 Owner: David B Sneddon Account: SYSPROG UIC: [10,10] ([TEST2])
If you want to change the username but leave the existing Identifier, the RENAME command with the /MODIFY_IDENTIFIER qualifier omitted or negated would be your choice. Check the HELP text within AUTHORIZE for the whole story.
From the UAF> prompt, enter HELP and then enter the command from the list that you want help on and help will tell you if there is additional help available.
There is no COPY/MODIFY.
If you look at COPY /ADD_IDENT you will see that /ADD is the default, meaning you don't need to specify it if that's the action you want.
Now, the username identifier is associated with the uic. If different users share uic numbers, the first one added to the system will own that association (unless you change it).
If you want to create a new user named IDERRINGER that has all of the settings of IJD but with its own identifier, you will need a unique UIC for IDERRINGER (and a new password).
Use:
UAF> show * /brief
to list the users and see the UIC's that are assigned. Pick one that isn't assigned and use it for IDERRINGER.
example assuming uic [50,102] is unused:
COPY IJD IDERRINGER/UIC=[50,102]/PASS=passwd
I think most of us were confused because you said you wanted to modify the account.
Yes, you guys are correct. My questions were not very clear. All I want to do is copy from an existing VMS account with 3 characters to a full 7 characters account and still be sharing the same UIC/identifier. I would still like to leave the original account remain intact. Therefore, the user will now be using the 7 characters account instead the 3 characters and their permission still intact.
Thanks everyone for your feedback on this subject.
Ian: Sounds like you want a new 7 character username which uses the same UIC. COPY IJD IJDERRI/PASS=password The user would have access to the same account through the new username. You wish to retain the old username. NOTE: This is not two accounts. Lawrence
