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VMS Server And WindowXP Client..can make a connection using PAthworks

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Lucky Regent
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VMS Server And WindowXP Client..can make a connection using PAthworks

We have a VAX VMS server V5.5-2..We want to make a connection between VMS server and our PC with WindowXP OS using pathworks.
I want to know that:-
1>Is windowXP support Pathwork.
2>Any specific requirement to make this connection.
3>Any other things that can help me.
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Hakan Zanderau ( Anders
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Re: VMS Server And WindowXP Client..can make a connection using PAthworks

What is the purpose for the "connection" between the VMS server and the PC ??
Filetransfer ??
Diskservice ?
Printservice ?

Hakan
Don't make it worse by guessing.........
Hakan Zanderau ( Anders
Trusted Contributor

Re: VMS Server And WindowXP Client..can make a connection using PAthworks

Is this the server with the bootproblem ??

http://forums11.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/questionanswer.do?threadId=1338501

Hakan

Just to make sure we don't make changes to an unstable system
Don't make it worse by guessing.........
Lucky Regent
Frequent Advisor

Re: VMS Server And WindowXP Client..can make a connection using PAthworks

Thanku Adreson for ur reply..

This is for File transfer..



Hakan Zanderau ( Anders
Trusted Contributor

Re: VMS Server And WindowXP Client..can make a connection using PAthworks

If UCX ( TCP/IP ) is installed wouldn't FTP help ?

Hakan
Don't make it worse by guessing.........
Lucky Regent
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Re: VMS Server And WindowXP Client..can make a connection using PAthworks

its ok anderson but i need pathworks...??
Hakan Zanderau ( Anders
Trusted Contributor

Re: VMS Server And WindowXP Client..can make a connection using PAthworks

Pathworks is a client/server application to
make the OpenVMS server act as File & Print server for PC:s

Pathworks is not a requirement for FTP.

Have you never used FTP ? on a PC for example.

Hakan
Don't make it worse by guessing.........
marsh_1
Honored Contributor

Re: VMS Server And WindowXP Client..can make a connection using PAthworks

hi,

what version of pathworks are you using ?

windows xp is supported.see here for another similar thread and a link for the pathworks page at hp :-

http://forums11.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/questionanswer.do?threadId=964538

http://h71000.www7.hp.com/pathworks32/index.html

for requirements see the spd and read the documentation.

hth

Lucky Regent
Frequent Advisor

Re: VMS Server And WindowXP Client..can make a connection using PAthworks

Can anybody tell me which is better one:-
1>tcp/ip
2>pathworks
Hakan Zanderau ( Anders
Trusted Contributor

Re: VMS Server And WindowXP Client..can make a connection using PAthworks

It depends on your needs.....

Until now, the only info you have given us is "Filetransfer".

I say it once more.

You MUST be more detailed when you describe your problem. If I were the one having problem and you were trying to help me......what info would you ask for ??

Hakan
Don't make it worse by guessing.........
Jon Pinkley
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Re: VMS Server And WindowXP Client..can make a connection using PAthworks

3>Any other things that can help me.

http://catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

http://www.gerv.net/hacking/how-to-ask-good-questions/

And if your other problem doesn't get resolved, this might help you

http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/02/01/how-to-ask-good-questions-in-an-interview/

And depending on your situation, this may be helpful, but not here.

http://www.ehow.com/how_4901958_ask-good-questions-dates.html

it depends
Lucky Regent
Frequent Advisor

Re: VMS Server And WindowXP Client..can make a connection using PAthworks

i have following doubts. Please help me out.

1>While installing Pathworks ver 7.4 on Window XP Pro, do we also need to install the same version of pathworks on Vax-VMS?

2> Does Pathworks V7.4 work on Vax/vms 5.2?
Hakan Zanderau ( Anders
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Re: VMS Server And WindowXP Client..can make a connection using PAthworks

The version of Pathworks for VMS 5.5-2 is 5.0F

http://h71000.www7.hp.com/pathworks/pathv5.html

You haven't answered my question if this is the server with the bootproblem.

Hakan
Don't make it worse by guessing.........
Brad McCusker
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Re: VMS Server And WindowXP Client..can make a connection using PAthworks

>While installing Pathworks ver 7.4 on >Window XP Pro, do we also need to install >the same version of pathworks on Vax-VMS?

No.

In fact, you do NOT need PATHWORKS on your client PC at all to use PATHWORKS on VMS.

Also, there is no such thing as PATHWORKS V7.4 for OpenVMS.

There is NO releationship between PATHWORKS on the PC and PATHWORKS on VMS. You do not need one to use the other - with one exception: DECnet. If you plan to use DECnet to communicate between your VAX and your PC then you need PATHWORKS on the PC to provide the DECnet stack on the PC. Otherwise, you do not need PATHWORKS on the PC.

The last version of PATHWORKS for OpenVMS V5.5-2 was PATHWORKS V5.0F. PATHWORKS V5.0F does not support Windows XP clients. It may work, but I doubt it. I have never tried it.

As others have said, we could help you more if you would let us know what you are trying to do. If you simply want to move files between the PC and the VAX, then use ftp. If ftp will not work for you, please explain why and tell us what you are trying to do.

Brad McCusker
Software Concepts International
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Brad McCusker
Software Concepts International
Hoff
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Re: VMS Server And WindowXP Client..can make a connection using PAthworks

[Reposting this due to the usual ITRC posting-lost glitch. Apologies, etc.]

With the communications gap obviously arising here (and the fear of job loss and the lack of local OpenVMS VAX skills that are mentioned in your other thread), I would doubt that the ITRC forums are going to lead anywhere but frustration for everybody involved here.

On no evidence other than the apparent unfamiliarity with OpenVMS VAX and related products here, I'd recommend replacing the OpenVMS VAX box with a Windows Server box, or one of the various NAS storage boxes running Windows File Services or analogous. Going to a native-Windows solution.

HP offers ProLiant servers and various NAS boxes that will likely better fulfill your (assumed!) requirements and (assumed!) expectations, and would make the best use of your existing Windows experience and skills.

I just don't think OpenVMS VAX is a good fit here, and suspect that there are better solutions for your particular environment.

Some time spent with a specialist here could help tailor a solution (whether that might use PATHWORKS 32 client on Windows XP and PATHWORKS Server on an upgraded OpenVMS VAX box), or the use of ftp or Filezilla on WIndows and TCP/IP Services on OpenVMS VAX, or a Windows-based environment, or something else) to your particular local requirements. Unlike the hardware service and repair matter from the other thread, this configuration matter can likely be discussed via conference call.

For reference, here is the other referenced thread:

http://forums11.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/bizsupport/questionanswer.do?threadId=1338501

Lucky Regent
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Re: VMS Server And WindowXP Client..can make a connection using PAthworks

To:- Anderson
Thanks anderson and That system is working fine now?

To:-Brad...thank you brad for ur useful informations. Still i have some doubts:- here they go:-

We used to FTP(TCP/IP) connection between Window XP and VAX/VMS machine to tranfer data.

Now we want to connect Window XP and VAX?VMS machine vie Pathworks. SO make a connection between these two vie PAthworks do we need to install same version of pathworks on the Both machines.

Or if vax machine has other version of Pathworks and XP has another version of pathworks. CAn we make a pathworks connection between these machines?

what other requirement should be met to accomplish this task??
Jon Pinkley
Honored Contributor

Re: VMS Server And WindowXP Client..can make a connection using PAthworks

RE: what other requirement should be met to accomplish this task??

The ability to read and understand the documentation.
it depends
Hakan Zanderau ( Anders
Trusted Contributor

Re: VMS Server And WindowXP Client..can make a connection using PAthworks

>To:- Anderson
>Thanks anderson and That system is working fine now?

Could you share the solution with all of us who tried to help you by updating the thread

http://forums11.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/questionanswer.do?threadId=1338501

and maybe close it ?

Pathworks isn't just something you install and then leave..... it needs configuration and maintenance.

Hakan

BTW....have you started to take backups on this machine now ? before doing further installations/changes ?
Don't make it worse by guessing.........
Lucky Regent
Frequent Advisor

Re: VMS Server And WindowXP Client..can make a connection using PAthworks

To:-Anderson

Ok i will update that thread.. we still did not take any backups of that system.

I know we need some more things despite of just installing pathworks.

But i want to confirm that can it be possible to make a connection using pathworks between vax/vms and Win XP pro having different version of pathworks.
Hakan Zanderau ( Anders
Trusted Contributor

Re: VMS Server And WindowXP Client..can make a connection using PAthworks

The server- and client- application is two different applications.

The server version you need is PW 5.0F

Hakan
Don't make it worse by guessing.........
Lucky Regent
Frequent Advisor

Re: VMS Server And WindowXP Client..can make a connection using PAthworks

I am very grateful of you(anderson) for providing relevant info so quickly..

You mean vax vms ver 5.2 need to install PW v5.0F and win XP pro with PW V7.4.

And there should be no problem to make a pathworks connection between these two machines. It will work fine? isn't it?

Hakan Zanderau ( Anders
Trusted Contributor

Re: VMS Server And WindowXP Client..can make a connection using PAthworks

PW V5.0F and PW32 V7.4 are the "latest and greatest" for your environment.

BUT !!

> And there should be no problem to make a
> pathworks connection between these two
> machines. It will work fine? isn't it?

I'm not sure about licensing for the server.

You NEED to read the documentation !!!!
You said in an eralier thread that you were afraid of loosing your job.
Start DOING your job as an OpenVMS System Manager.

Do you think I have all information stored in my head ? I have a lot of VMS-documentations behind my back and I know the URL to the OpenVMS related docsets.

Hakan

Don't take this the wrong way........
Don't make it worse by guessing.........
Lucky Regent
Frequent Advisor

Re: VMS Server And WindowXP Client..can make a connection using PAthworks

To transfer data between NARS for VMS and NARS for Windows, Pathworks or TCP/IP FTP is used. Both of these transport mechanisms allow NARS to transfer data files between
the NCP(NARS for VMS) and the NARS PC(Win XP pro).

Earlier we were using TCP/IP FTP. BUt now we want to use Pathworks.
We have VMS v5.2 and WindowXP Pro For pathwork installation.

Is it must that both the machine have same version of pathworks to trasfer data between NARS for VMS and NARS for windows.

Or if we have NARS for VMS with PW v5.0F and NARS for windows with PW v7.4. Is it possible to transfer data files between these two machines using pathworks???
marsh_1
Honored Contributor

Re: VMS Server And WindowXP Client..can make a connection using PAthworks

hi,

see earlier answer from brad McCusker re: pathworks version supported on vms and xp client connectivity for pathworks.
what is about ftp that does'nt suit what you need to do ? is it causing issues ? if so what are those issues ?


Lucky Regent
Frequent Advisor

Re: VMS Server And WindowXP Client..can make a connection using PAthworks

Hi Brad:--
ur ans:-There is NO releationship between PATHWORKS on the PC and PATHWORKS on VMS. You do not need one to use the other - with one exception: DECnet. If you plan to use DECnet to communicate between your VAX and your PC then you need PATHWORKS on the PC to provide the DECnet stack on the PC. Otherwise, you do not need PATHWORKS on the PC.


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Yes we are doing this for DECnet.We want to use DECnet to communicate between VAX and PC.