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Re: VMS Tar/Compression Behavior

 
Steven Schweda
Honored Contributor

Re: VMS Tar/Compression Behavior

My VMSTAR is only V3.4, not V3.4-1, but its
AAAREADME.TXT says:

- VMSTAR will extract files from archives as VMS rfm=stream_lf, rat=cr files,
except if new option `b' is specified. In this case, extracted files are
created as rfm=fixed, mrs=512, rat=none i.e. suitable for compressed files to
be decompressed using LZDCMP or for VMS images.

I don't see how to get a variable length
format out of that.

Or does the "-1" change everything?

This is why people don't use it for VMS-VMS
file exchange.
Arch_Muthiah
Honored Contributor

Re: VMS Tar/Compression Behavior

Hi Steven Schweda,

looks like you still try to use this forum as an ordinary internet forum where people keeps arguing/blaming/abusing/fighting each other.

You don't need to concentrate complaining other members response, and that too, by picking few splitted words out of complete sentence and arguing with others is not healthy for this forum.

> I am trying to tarring and compressing a > file that will be sent to another
> location (where it will be untarred and
> uncompressed).

and

> I am using the VMS TAR V3.3-4 (Feb 4 2003)
> utility on an OpenVMS V7.1 platform.

From the above statements (from Mr.Paul), I understood that he uses old VMSTAR version. So I provided the link (from HP website)where he can download the latest version of VMSTAR for .....

> 1. VMSTAR.EXE (ALPHA)and
> 2. VMSTAR.EXE (for VAX) is available in
> this HP link. Download it and it will
> work fine.

This is certainly the way of work with friends.

> Until someone shows me that VMSTAR can
> preserve RMS file attributes, I'll
> continue to believe that it's not a good
> tool for general use on VMS.

Mr.Paul has posted his question. But see your response to Paul, doesn't it look like irresponsible answer?. Or anyone forced you to use VMSTAR?

So my dear forum-friend Steven, understand that other members are not sitting idle to respond to your unrelated blamings.

Though everyone can not be thourough with this EVER GREAT OCEAN SIZE OOOOpen Ist Virtual OS, but there so many forum members here who are having great experience VMS and its internals.

I appreciate your extraordinary skills in Zip and Unzip!. Yes!!!!, because you have swept 60 points through one of the previous ZIP related question, that too 10 points for your each blaming answer.

The unfortunate thing here is that you never given point to any one who answered for your previous questions!!!!.

Try to give the points as others are spending their valuable time to answer to you.

Regards
Archie
Steven Schweda
Honored Contributor

Re: VMS Tar/Compression Behavior

Perhaps I'm missing something.

1. The original poster said that he was
trying to compress and move a variable length
format file using VMSTAR.

2. VMSTAR will change a variable length
format file into a Stream_LF format file.

Given (2), How will any suggestions involving
VMSTAR be helpful in any way? (Other than,
"Don't use it!", of course.)

Zip (-V) and UnZip can do this. BACKUP and
GZIP (or BZIP2) could also do this (with a
little extra work). Perhaps some more
complex scheme using FDL files could also be
made to work.

OP: "I'm trying to get to the Moon in my
model-T Ford"

AM: "A model-T?! You need a 2005 Ford
Mustang. I've attached one"

SS: "No, cars will never work. You need a
space ship."

AM: "That's an irresponsible answer."

SS: "Call me when you get there."
Arch_Muthiah
Honored Contributor

Re: VMS Tar/Compression Behavior

Paul,

I am for the inconvenience.

Archunan
Regards
Archie
Arch_Muthiah
Honored Contributor

Re: VMS Tar/Compression Behavior

Paul

I am sorry for the inconvenience.

Archunan
Regards
Archie
Arch_Muthiah
Honored Contributor

Re: VMS Tar/Compression Behavior

Paul,

As Mr. Steven Schweda keeps blaming me (not only here, but in other's posting too), I have been forced to respond to him.

> "I'm trying to get to the Moon in my
> model-T Ford"

Is this the one you posted? Are you trying to do this?.

I am wondering how come this ordinary TAR and ZIP question become MOON related issues?

Anyway, in my very first response, I just given a reference from our office HP website to download VMSTAR for VAX and Alpha.

> I am not sure what version of Tar are you > using. Anyway the link I attached has all > kind of compression and decompression
> utility VAMTAR (for VAX, ALPHA), and
> UNZIP, ZIP and GZIP for VAX, Alpha, I64.

Also, I did not pressure you to use only VMSTAR. For this purpose only I have given another link where you can download ZIP, UNZIP, and GZIP for VAX, Alpha and I64 in the same posting.

Then why our forum friend Mr.Steven Schweda blaming me that I am misguiding you to use VMSTAR.

Mr.Steven Schweda:
If you invented bugs in VMSTAR, why don't you logde a complaints in HP. Call your nearest HP office, complain about your invention and get the new ticket. Not only HP every vendor welcomes their customers complaints. And please ask them to remove this VMSTAR (MOON-FORD-SHIP advertisement) link from their website.

Archunan
Regards
Archie
Paul Burkhardt
New Member

Re: VMS Tar/Compression Behavior

Folks,

I just wanted to thank eveyone for their helpful contributions. I have obtained some valuable information.