VMS error when set def or dir to logical:[dir]

[Tim Nelson]

Running into some problems using a logical for dir command or set def to a directory under the logical.
"ADMIN" = "SYS$SYSDEVICE:[ADMIN]" (LNM$SYSTEM_TABLE)
SET DEF ADMIN:[UTIL]
%DCL-W-DIRECT, invalid directory syntax - check brackets and other delimiters
DIR ADMIN:[UTIL]
%DIRECT-E-OPENIN, error opening ADMIN:[UTIL] as input
-RMS-F-DIR, error in directory name
I origionally encountered this when using a search list logical like sys$sysroot as well. I read that search list logicals are special and the new directory must exist under all the searchable directories or an error will occur..
This should be easy.
Thanks in advance.

[Lokesh_2]

Hi,

Put a "." at the end (rooted logical)

$defin/system ADMIN SYS$SYSDEVICE:[ADMIN.]

Thanks & regards,
Lokesh

[Ian Miller. · Accepted solution]

DEFINE/SYSTEM/TRANS=CONC ADMIN SYS$SYSDEVICE:[ADMIN.]

Note trailing .

[Wim Van den Wyngaert]

Make that
$defin/system ADMIN SYS$SYSDEVICE:[ADMIN.]/tran=conc

Wim

[labadie_1]

It seems we go back to a recent thread about rooted directory

http://forums1.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/questionanswer.do?threadId=618645

and see particularly what John Gillings posted

[Tim Nelson]

$ define /system/exec admin sys$sysdevice:[admin.]
$ show log admin
"ADMIN" = "SYS$SYSDEVICE:[ADMIN.]" (LNM$SYSTEM_TABLE)
1 "SYS$SYSDEVICE:[ADMIN.]" = "ADMIN" (LNM$SYSTEM_TABLE)
2 "ADMIN" = "SYS$SYSDEVICE:[ADMIN.]" (LNM$SYSTEM_TABLE)
3 "SYS$SYSDEVICE:[ADMIN.]" = "ADMIN" (LNM$SYSTEM_TABLE)
4 "ADMIN" = "SYS$SYSDEVICE:[ADMIN.]" (LNM$SYSTEM_TABLE)
5 "SYS$SYSDEVICE:[ADMIN.]" = "ADMIN" (LNM$SYSTEM_TABLE)
6 "ADMIN" = "SYS$SYSDEVICE:[ADMIN.]" (LNM$SYSTEM_TABLE)
7 "SYS$SYSDEVICE:[ADMIN.]" = "ADMIN" (LNM$SYSTEM_TABLE)
8 "ADMIN" = "SYS$SYSDEVICE:[ADMIN.]" (LNM$SYSTEM_TABLE)
9 "SYS$SYSDEVICE:[ADMIN.]" = "ADMIN" (LNM$SYSTEM_TABLE)
$ set def admin
%RMS-F-DIR, error in directory name
$ set def admin:
%RMS-F-DIR, error in directory name
$ set def admin:[util]
%DCL-W-DIRECT, invalid directory syntax - check brackets and other delimiters
Still being weird.. Could you eyeball the syntax above please ?

[Tim Nelson]

define /system/exec/trans=conc admin sys$sysdevice:[admin.]
does the trick. I have been reading on the rooted logicals and still trying to apply the discussion to reality.
the trans=concealed is the ticket.
Apologize for missing that. It now makes sense.
Thanks to all !!!!

[Lokesh_2]

Give the following command:

deass/system/exec SYS$SYSDEVICE:[ADMIN.]
deass/system/exec admin

Then give the following command:

DEFIN/SYSTEM/TRAN=CON ADMIN SYS$SYSDEVICE:[ADMIN.]

Best regards,
Lokesh Jain

[Wim Van den Wyngaert]

Tim,

Note also that you can not use concealed devices in the construction of concealed devices. 1 exception : the concealed device pointing to a device.

In other words : only 1 .] may be present in the logical expansion.

Wim

[Tim Nelson]

Lokesh,
Is there a reason to not specify /exec ? I am looking to make this a system wide logical. ( yes I promise to read the doc a little better but want your opinion.

Thanks !