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cannot boot AlphaServer2000 Model 5/300 OS - OpenVMS ver 7.1

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cannot boot AlphaServer2000 Model 5/300 OS - OpenVMS ver 7.1

After power failure [abnormal shutdown]the system unable to boot please help,if i press the halt button it able to be on the console
prompt P00>> or else the following messages appear disk space problem. I dont know how to make the space available to start the system normally , I am not having any backup nor any documentation for this server.
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P00>>boot
message from user SYSTEM on ALPHA
ERRFMT-Error Accessing error log file
ERRFMT-Deleting ERRFMT Process,error log file unwritable

Message from user QUEUE_MANAGE ON ALPHA
%QMAN_E_NODISKSPACE, disk space not available for queue mgr to continue
-QMAN-I-FREEDISK,free up 468 blocks on disk-ALPHA$DKA0

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Wim Van den Wyngaert
Honored Contributor

Re: cannot boot AlphaServer2000 Model 5/300 OS - OpenVMS ver 7.1

boot -fl 0,1

wait for prompt

set startup_p1 "MIN"
continue

wait for end of boot and login
delete some files (e.g. sys$manager:*.log or whatever you can find that is not needed or do a purge)

mc sysgen
>use current
>set startup_p1 ""
>write current
>exit

@sys$ystem:shutdown (and give answers for reboot)

Wim
Wim
Karl Rohwedder
Honored Contributor

Re: cannot boot AlphaServer2000 Model 5/300 OS - OpenVMS ver 7.1

It seems, as if your systemdisk is full.

Try to boot minimal or from CDROM and check,
which files are occupying the spacse, perhaps a batchjob filled up its logfile or someone enabled all auditing...

>>> b -fl 0,1
SYSBOOT> set startup_p1 "MIN"
SYSBOOT> continue

regards Kalle
Ian Miller.
Honored Contributor

Re: cannot boot AlphaServer2000 Model 5/300 OS - OpenVMS ver 7.1

It appears your system disk is full.
Perform a minimum boot and tidy up.
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Antoniov.
Honored Contributor

Re: cannot boot AlphaServer2000 Model 5/300 OS - OpenVMS ver 7.1

I agree.
Disk full. Boot minimal and purge files.

Antonio Vigliotti
Antonio Maria Vigliotti

Re: cannot boot AlphaServer2000 Model 5/300 OS - OpenVMS ver 7.1

thanks for the replies ,

I tried
P00>>boot -fl 0,1
SYSBOOT>set startup_p1 "MIN"

SYSBOOT>continue

The above errors messages of disk full and system stops at the following message,
cursor is blinking at the end of this message
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error opening SYS$SYSROOT:[SYSMGR]
%MAIL-E-SENDER,error sending to user SYSTEM
-MAIL-E-OPENOUT, error opening SYS$SYSROOT:[SYSMGR]MAIL.MAI as output
-SYSTEM-F-IVDEVNAM, invalid device name
Antoniov.
Honored Contributor

Re: cannot boot AlphaServer2000 Model 5/300 OS - OpenVMS ver 7.1

After mail error message can you login into system?
If yes can you issue PURGE command?
How space do you have on system disk?

Antonio Vigliotti
Antonio Maria Vigliotti

Re: cannot boot AlphaServer2000 Model 5/300 OS - OpenVMS ver 7.1

Thanks for the reply, as I said earlier system stops at the message -SYSTEM-F-IVDEVNAM, invalid device name
none of the keys working , cursor remain blinking
1. I cannot login to system
2. PURGE not work
3. I exactly dont know how much space available on system [ how to check the avaialble space and free space]

Thanks
SyedMoin
Ian Miller.
Honored Contributor
Solution

Re: cannot boot AlphaServer2000 Model 5/300 OS - OpenVMS ver 7.1

Follow the procedure here
http://h71000.www7.hp.com/faq/vmsfaq_006.html#mgmt5
then you will be logged in at $ prompt.
To check for free disk space

$ SHOW DEVICE DKA0
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Purely Personal Opinion

Re: cannot boot AlphaServer2000 Model 5/300 OS - OpenVMS ver 7.1

Thanks for ur kind help,
The note provided help me a lot and solved my problem , after deleting some files and restart the system still taking the parameters given in the note provided but if use SYSBOOT>use default
continue
it started successfully....

Thanks again for kind support.

Best Regards
Syed Moin
Daniel Fernandez Illan
Trusted Contributor

Re: cannot boot AlphaServer2000 Model 5/300 OS - OpenVMS ver 7.1

Hi
To recover automayic startup use (after reboot)
mc sysgen
USE CURRENT
SET/STARTUP SYS$SYSTEM:STARTUP.COM
WRITE CURRENT
EXIT

Saludos.
Daniel.

Robert_Boyd
Respected Contributor

Re: cannot boot AlphaServer2000 Model 5/300 OS - OpenVMS ver 7.1

Syed,

With your system up and running again, you might want to install the FREEWARE utility DFU V2.7A and use the command

$ DFU SEARCH SYS$SYSDEVICE:/SIZE=MIN=10000

to find all of the files that are of a significant size on your system disk.

Of course, this doesn't find the files where you may have accumulated a large number of small files. There are ways to find those too.

I don't know if DFU will do something like this, but I like the command:

$ DIRECTORY SYS$SYSDEVICE:[*...]*.*;-100

This will find all files that have at least 100 versions. Or you could use 50 as a starting point.

Robert
Master you were right about 1 thing -- the negotiations were SHORT!
Uwe Zessin
Honored Contributor

Re: cannot boot AlphaServer2000 Model 5/300 OS - OpenVMS ver 7.1

Even without DFU:

$ set default sys$sysdevice:[000000]
$ directory /size=all /select=size=minimum=10000 -
sys$sysdevice:[000000...] -
/exclude= [sys*.syscommon...]*.*;*

(It's typed from memory/untested)
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Wim Van den Wyngaert
Honored Contributor

Re: cannot boot AlphaServer2000 Model 5/300 OS - OpenVMS ver 7.1

I justed tested a minimal boot with a full system disk.

Indeed there are messages about disk full but I was able to login and delete the file.

Your mail problem has something to do with a bad boot setup : something that is started in an incorrect place.

Wim
Wim
Wim Van den Wyngaert
Honored Contributor

Re: cannot boot AlphaServer2000 Model 5/300 OS - OpenVMS ver 7.1

Also add to Uwe's procedure :

$ set default sys$sysdevice:[000000]
$ directory /size=all sys$sysdevice:[000000...]*.*;-100

Wim
Wim