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тАО01-11-2006 03:33 AM
тАО01-11-2006 03:33 AM
IS it possible to copy files and structure from DIsk on 6.2 system with all protections and rightlist information intact onto the 8.2 system?
Is it possible to use BACKUP to backup disk from the 6.2 host into save-sets on the 8.2 host disks?
Thx
CLayton
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тАО01-11-2006 04:22 AM
тАО01-11-2006 04:22 AM
Re: copying data with rights and protection intact accross remote nodes?
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тАО01-11-2006 06:41 AM
тАО01-11-2006 06:41 AM
Re: copying data with rights and protection intact accross remote nodes?
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тАО01-11-2006 08:24 AM
тАО01-11-2006 08:24 AM
Re: copying data with rights and protection intact accross remote nodes?
you can try some related info here under the subtitle of
B.1 Building a Common SYSUAF.DAT File
B.2 Merging RIGHTSLIST.DAT Files
http://h71000.www7.hp.com/doc/731FINAL/4477/4477pro_023.html#build_uaf_upgrade
Archunan
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тАО01-11-2006 08:53 AM
тАО01-11-2006 08:53 AM
Re: copying data with rights and protection intact accross remote nodes?
"VMS guide to system security" says that BACKUP of RIGHTSLIST.database will not be correct even if we use /IGNORE=INTERLOCK qualifier in the backup command as RIGHTSLIST database is one of the VMS CORE files which should be open always.
And the manual says RIGHTSLIST database cannot be recovered from a BACKUP copy.
So better
1. CREATE RIGHTSLIST database
2. ADD/IDENTIFIER to generate UIC for each user in SYSUAF.database.
3, Redefine the holders of the identifiers with GRANT/IDENTIFIER commands.
I saw your couple posting on this same topic earlier, I guess this is best way as per the the manual.
Archunan
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тАО01-11-2006 09:08 AM
тАО01-11-2006 09:08 AM
Re: copying data with rights and protection intact accross remote nodes?
A consistent copy of active SYSUAF.DAT and RIGHTSLIST.DAT (and other permanently opened files) can be made by
$ CONVERT/SHARE
and then copying temp-file.
(see the MANY postings on this and related subjects by Mr. RMS himself, Hein van den Heuvel)
Proost.
Have one on me.
Jpe
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тАО01-11-2006 09:31 AM
тАО01-11-2006 09:31 AM
Re: copying data with rights and protection intact accross remote nodes?
Yes, Jan. Clayton can use CONVERT/SHARE to a copy of rightslist file, and he already mentioned in his previous posting that he used COPY command and it worked for him.
I never tried BACKUP?, our docs also says backup/restore can't be the best way.
Archunan
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тАО01-11-2006 06:46 PM
тАО01-11-2006 06:46 PM
Re: copying data with rights and protection intact accross remote nodes?
IMHO there is very little write/update activity on RIGHTSLIST on a normal system. So when you take this backup on a system which is not doing anything else, the chance that you wind up with an unusable RIGHTSLIST file is very slim.
OK, the documentation is correct. There is a chance that something goes wrong. In practice, if you know what you are doing, just do it!
Regards,
Bart Zorn
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тАО01-11-2006 11:15 PM
тАО01-11-2006 11:15 PM
Re: copying data with rights and protection intact accross remote nodes?
yes, BACKUP can save original owner-UIC of file (Did you mean this as "righlist information"?). The best solution is to use the same user with the same UIC on both systems for owner of the saved file. If user of orig. UIC doesn't exist, you'll see only UIC-num as owner of file. You can use parameter /BY_OWNER=ORIGINAL into your BACKUP comands for backup and restor (or /BY_OWNER=['actual_uic'] for restore command).
Petr
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тАО01-13-2006 03:19 AM
тАО01-13-2006 03:19 AM
Re: copying data with rights and protection intact accross remote nodes?
Thx
Clayton