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11-16-2005 11:13 PM
11-16-2005 11:13 PM
delayed ack for ftp
delayed ack for ftp
Now I found that FTP sessions ack almost all packets that arrive, which is overhead.
Is there a way to get delayed ack back only for ftp ?
I know there is a logical tcpip$ftp_setnodelay but that's one for getting nodelay and I want delay (btw : didn't find any doc on it).
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11-17-2005 01:44 AM
11-17-2005 01:44 AM
Re: delayed ack for ftp
Re: delayed ack for ftp
Agreed on the documentation: that, and help, on TCPIP is typically Unix-like: impractical if existing.
Willem
OpenVMS Developer & System Manager
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11-17-2005 02:54 AM
11-17-2005 02:54 AM
Re: delayed ack for ftp
Re: delayed ack for ftp
TCPIP SET SERVICE FTP/PROTOCOL_OP=TCP=DELAY
and shutdown/startup the ftp service
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11-20-2005 05:59 PM
11-20-2005 05:59 PM
Re: delayed ack for ftp
Re: delayed ack for ftp
Very good. I didn't see that option.
But I tried it and still got FTP not working in stream mode. Almost every packet received is acked immediately.
Wim
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11-20-2005 06:00 PM
11-20-2005 06:00 PM
Re: delayed ack for ftp
Re: delayed ack for ftp
Wim
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11-20-2005 06:46 PM
11-20-2005 06:46 PM
Re: delayed ack for ftp
Re: delayed ack for ftp
>>>
Can you disable ACK on a per-process basis?
<<<
Normally, you can *only* disable ACK on a socket basis: it's a socket option.
That's why I've been trying for years to get Process to implement it in TCPware/MultiNet the way UCX does it - it's just plain useful to disable it for the whole stack ;-)
cu,
Martin
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11-20-2005 06:54 PM
11-20-2005 06:54 PM
Re: delayed ack for ftp
Re: delayed ack for ftp
As I understand it, the program behind the service must read the service parameters and implement them.
I have the impression that FTP is not using
the tcp option.
Wim
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11-20-2005 07:14 PM
11-20-2005 07:14 PM
Re: delayed ack for ftp
Re: delayed ack for ftp
sets the option stronger than the service ?
When I do show prot tcp, I don't see ANY delayed acks being sent (based upon (xxx delayed).
Wim
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11-20-2005 08:00 PM
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Wim
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11-21-2005 03:28 PM
11-21-2005 03:28 PM
Re: delayed ack for ftp
Re: delayed ack for ftp
Perhaps we can toggle the tcp parameter tcpnodelack before and after the startup of sybase servers.
$ sysconfig -r inet tcpnodelack=1
$ startup sybase servers
$ sysconfig -r inet tcpnodelack=0
Thanks and regards.
Michael
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11-21-2005 05:57 PM
11-21-2005 05:57 PM
Re: delayed ack for ftp
Re: delayed ack for ftp
Yes but then during a few seconds (multiplied by 5 servers), everything that is started gets nodelay.
And this requires changes in startup. Difficult to get over here.
Wim
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11-22-2005 11:42 AM
11-22-2005 11:42 AM
Re: delayed ack for ftp
Re: delayed ack for ftp
Perhaps you can put the following line inside the site specific startup for FTP and FTP_CLIENT.
$ sysconfig -r inet tcpnodelack=0
The files are SYS$STARTUP:TCPIP$FTP_SYSTARTUP.COM
and SYS$STARTUP:TCPIP$FTP_CLIENT_SYSTARTUP.COM.
Make sure that the sybase servers are started before FTP_CLIENT.
Thanks and regards.
Michael
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