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John McL
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Re: gSOAP on OpenVMS

Bob, we're tried extracting the gSOAP kit onto an ODS-5 disk and at the moment we're still struggling with it.

My colleague, who I am posting these message for because I have an ITR account, says that what we're trying to do is the opposite to normal - we want to set things up for outbound messages rather than for inbound messages (or should my vice be versa?).

The guys who wrote the docs on John Apps's blog have responded to my email and we'll discuss things in more detail with them next week.
Robert Gezelter
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Re: gSOAP on OpenVMS

John,

What precisely is the problem that you are having with unzippping the archive?

- Bob Gezelter, http://www.rlgsc.com
John McL
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Re: gSOAP on OpenVMS

Bob, the unzipping had some problems with the ancient version of tar that we had on VMS, then the file names had to go to an ODS-5 disk because they were Unix format rather than VMS. Then when we got makefile on VMS running it wanted to use yacc and bison (I think).

We've spoken with the guys who did the work for John Apps's website and they'll do some more work and get back to us in a few days. When they do I'll try to get some useful info posted back here for everyone to read.

At the moment I'm not sure what public comments they want to make about what they're doing, or precisely what it is they will do (e.g. a PCSI installation kit or a zipped kit, something that HP will support or something it won't, a kit that needs external components x, y and z or a kit that has everything, whether they're happy to have me post something or whether they want to do it themselves.)
Steven Schweda
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Re: gSOAP on OpenVMS

> [...] ancient version of tar [...]

If you're feeling adventurous:

http://antinode.info/ftp/vmstar/v3r5_pre3_src.zip
Richard J Maher
Trusted Contributor

Re: gSOAP on OpenVMS

Hi John,

>>>>>>>>>
We've spoken with the guys who did the work for John Apps's website and they'll do some more work and get back to us in a few days.
<<<<<<<<<

"Free-Time permitting" surely?

Given what's happening to many VMS engineers I'd hate to think the less-worthy were still raking it in for twiddling their thumbs.

Regards Richard Maher
Richard J Maher
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Re: gSOAP on OpenVMS

Hi John,

Just looking at http://ws.apache.org/axis2/c/
recently, and was wondering if the built-in and fully-supported SSL capability of Axis2 would satisfy your requirements?

Also can't see a distinction on the HP site between the JAVA and C versions of Axis2: -
http://h71000.www7.hp.com/openvms/products/ips/axis2/

But there is: - "Axis2 for OpenVMS provides a complete port of the Apache Axis2 1.3 project."

So if it isn't there I guess it's gotta be around the corner?

Regards Richard Maher
John McL
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Re: gSOAP on OpenVMS

Sorry about the delay.

We're waiting on the HP guys to get back to us, at which point we'll discuss what I can say in this forum regards their progress and any ongoing support for gSOAP SSL.

Our issue with SSL is not at the server end so issues with Apache don't apply. We currently have a workaround of bouncing a message to a machine that can do the SSL communication with the server but we'd be happier with a gSOAP SSL to allow us to directly communicate with that server.
Richard J Maher
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Re: gSOAP on OpenVMS

Hi John,

> Our issue with SSL is not at the server

Ok.

> end so issues with Apache don't apply.

Is that what "the HP guys" have told you?

My understanding is that Axis2 provides mechanisms to both "provide and *consume*" SOAP services; maybe you're right?

Look, I've not used the software in anger so I'm happy to be corrected, but what I can see from: -

http://ws.apache.org/axis2/1_2/Axis2ArchitectureGuide.html

"Provide a Client API that can be used to invoke Web services. This API should support both the Synchronous and Asynchronous programming models. "

http://h71000.www7.hp.com/openvms/products/ips/soap/soap.html

"The SOAP Toolkit is Java-based and provides development tools to create SOAP clients or to implement server-side SOAP accessible services using HTTP as the transport protocol. As a client library, it provides the ability to invoke SOAP RPC services available elsewhere, in addition to features for sending and receiving SOAP messages."

http://h71000.www7.hp.com/openvms/products/ips/axis2/
"Axis2 for OpenVMS replaces the SOAP Toolkit for OpenVMS. All future new features and enhancements will be provided beginning with Axis2 Version 1.0 for OpenVMS. "

. . .is that Axis2 is where they're heading. Certainly one of the many SOAP implementations they've been pumping millions of license-payer dollars into.

> We currently have a workaround of bouncing
> a message to a machine that can do the SSL
> communication with the server

Maybe Stunnel for VMS can be of some assitance here and don't forget IPSec.

> but we'd be happier with a gSOAP SSL to
> allow us to directly communicate with that
> server

Me, I'd love an XHR$ RTL that can be fully integrated with VMS and it's 3GLs but it don't look like it's gonna happen. "Money for old rope" seems to get the development dollars these days, but as gSOAP is supplanting WSIT and Axis2, could someone just tell the poor fools that are implementing projects with them at the moment? They can't take any more vacilations :-(

> We're waiting on the HP guys to get back
> to us, at which point we'll discuss what
> I can say in this forum regards their
> progress and any ongoing support for
> gSOAP SSL.

I too would very much like to know what's been whispered to VMS customers by "HP guys" all theses years and for what ends!

Depends which "HP guys" you talk to I suppose?

Regards Richard Maher
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John McL
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Re: gSOAP on OpenVMS

Richard, thanks for your thoughts.

We seem to be making good progress with the 3 guys who originally supplied gSOAP and commented that adding SSL should be easy.

I've asked one of them to post to this thread so that people like yourself are brought up to date.

I would be guessing at what's happenibng between those guys and HP so I can't pre-empt what might be said.

It's Friday here now and if they've not posted by early next week I'll send them a reminder to do so.
John McL
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Re: gSOAP on OpenVMS

I'm still waiting for a response from one of the 3 people who ported gSOAP to VMS.

I'll email them a reminder.