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old TIMA urls ... how to translate and use today?

 
Verne Britton
Regular Advisor

old TIMA urls ... how to translate and use today?

in many ITRC archives (at least in the OPENVMS section) I find links like

http://h18000.www1.hp.com/support/asktima/operating_systems/009694DA-62EA44E0-1C0097.html

how to I translate that to a URL that works today?

It would actually be more useful if there is a way to do general searching or browsing on all those TIMA posts/articles/example programs :-)

Verne
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Dennis Handly
Acclaimed Contributor

Re: old TIMA urls ... how to translate and use today?

You probably need to ask in the OpenVMS forum, I'll ask the moderators to move this thread.

>It would actually be more useful if there is a way to do general searching or browsing on all those TIMA posts/articles/example programs

Have you tried mr google? (It doesn't seem to be able to find it. )-:
Ian Miller.
Honored Contributor

Re: old TIMA urls ... how to translate and use today?

I think this question could be generalised to where are the TIMA articles?

Searching the knowledgebase using james
http://www13.itrc.hp.com/service/james/home.do

does not seem to find them any more.

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Hoff
Honored Contributor

Re: old TIMA urls ... how to translate and use today?

AFAIK, the contents DEC support database and the old TIMA articles are somewhere between unavailable and gone. There was no discussion or migration path announced anywhere I've seen; the articles just disappeared a while back.

Whatever the asktima stuff (TIMA gateway?) was doing, it's no longer doing. Or the back-end data is disconnected or gone.

You might want to contact HP directly and see if they have copies of the articles of interest somewhere in their stash.
Richard Jordan
Regular Advisor

Re: old TIMA urls ... how to translate and use today?

I sent a couple of queries to the website problem reporting addresses and to an ITRC help address about the disappearance of the older support docs, but never got any response. The old 'search assistant' was able to locate nearly all of the DSNlink and other DEC support docs, but they all disappeared once the new search engine was put in.

My bookmark to the old search engine still brings up a page but any attempt to use it dies with an error (also reported, also never received any response).

Sorry. I've needed info from them too, but HP apparently no longer provides them.
Hoff
Honored Contributor

Re: old TIMA urls ... how to translate and use today?

As for what I suspect the basic specific and underlying question that triggered this question, try this query:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=site%3Amvb.saic.com+%22broadcast+trapping%22+ptd

If that doesn't get you enough, drop the ptd bit from the query.

Also see SYS$EXAMPLES:ALPHA_LOGGER.C, and see the broadcast mailbox mechanism available via the terminal driver.

Access to TIMA (when it was on-line) appears to have been blocked to Googlebot and the Internet Archive and other spiders, so it's unlikely there is a cache of this data outside of HP.

Tis a shame all this stuff vaporized. Ah, well.
John Gillings
Honored Contributor

Re: old TIMA urls ... how to translate and use today?

Verne,

Ancient patches (released before 24th Sep 2003), can still be found on the old Sydney CSC ECO web site.

Go to:

http://ftp.hp.com.au/pub/ecoinfo/ecoinfo/top.htm

click on "Search ECOs" and enter the name of the ECO you want. The web site has an indexed archive of all TIMA ECO articles from 1993 to 2003. If it's old enough, the search will find the latest version of the kit, plus all dependencies.

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Volker Halle
Honored Contributor

Re: old TIMA urls ... how to translate and use today?

Verne,

looks like these TIMA articles are not even accessible internally in HP anymore ;-(

Volker.
Ian Miller.
Honored Contributor

Re: old TIMA urls ... how to translate and use today?

I've discovered things are accessable via SAW if you dig enough.

I have also discovered that using the james search engine

http://www13.itrc.hp.com/service/james/home.do

and search only the "Engineering notes, solutions, bug reports, FAQs" category seems to locate some of the classics
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Volker Halle
Honored Contributor

Re: old TIMA urls ... how to translate and use today?

Ian,

GREAT !!! Thanks for digging this up.

Volker.