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Re: x.25 access on emulator

 
John Welsh_2
Regular Advisor

x.25 access on emulator

Hi, I am trying to determine a solution for a customer wishing to move off his VAX hardware to an emulator. He currently has x.25 access using a dpv11 on the q-bus.
He wont have a q-bus on the emulator so what ethernet device can replace it? He is running VAXVMS V7.2 with DECnet IV. Possibly a DECNIS ???
Are there any others and what Layered Prod is needed for each device ?
Thanks, John.
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Phil.Howell
Honored Contributor

Re: x.25 access on emulator

If you are looking at charon-vax then it includes emulation of serial lines and these can be mapped to a multi-port pci card.
You can then use an opengear box of some sort (SD4002?) to get to ethernet.
Volker Halle
Honored Contributor

Re: x.25 access on emulator

Phil,

X.25 uses a SYNCHRONOUS line, not an ASYNCHRONOUS one. Synchronous interfaces are not available for CHARON-VAX.

John,

a DECnis or X25 Gateway (DEMSA Box) comes to mind. But they might be hard to get...

Volker.
Oswald Knoppers_1
Valued Contributor

Re: x.25 access on emulator

If you upgrade (VMS) and install DECnet-Plus you could use LLC2 (over ethernet) and have some cisco box do the physical connection to the X.25 network.

Oswald

Hoff
Honored Contributor

Re: x.25 access on emulator

And the alternative solution that wasn't mentioned...

...Add emulation for the DPV11 on the Q-Bus.
John Gillings
Honored Contributor

Re: x.25 access on emulator

John,
This begs the question, what are they using X.25 for, and who, or what are they talking to? I don't imagine the X.25 phone book is very thick these days. Maybe time to upgrade their comms?
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John Welsh_2
Regular Advisor

Re: x.25 access on emulator

Hi all,
Thanks for the replies so far.
I believe the DECNIS should be the way to go.
They are still available if you look hard enough.
The customer says that they expect that they will use x25 for a few more years yet.

I will keep this discussion open for a while yet in case there are more replies then I will assign points.
Best regards, JohnW.
Volker Halle
Honored Contributor

Re: x.25 access on emulator

John,

the following thought just crossed my mind:

Can a DECnis or X.25 Gateway be used without DECnet-OSI ? Don't you need something like X.25 Access to talk to a DECnis ?

It's too long ago that I've seen X.25...

Volker.
John Welsh_2
Regular Advisor

Re: x.25 access on emulator

Hi Volker,
I believe that PSI or PSI-access s/w is needed and this can be run with DECnet Phase IV.
I'm still searching for a VAX PSI SPD. So far I have had no luck. I think I have some VAX Layered Products CD's somewhere around. I have checked in a 1995 set but it must have been prior to this. Thanks.
Volker Halle
Honored Contributor

Re: x.25 access on emulator

John,

P.S.I. Access V4.3 (UPI: 061AA) was available on the OpenVMS VAX Layered Product CDs from JUL-1991 until MAY-1993.

Here is a very handy tool to research something like this:

http://org.openvms.de/spl.php

Volker.