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My next HP server christmas - items to be included in my wish list

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Yogeeraj_1
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My next HP server christmas - items to be included in my wish list

Dear experts!

We have been running 2 rp5430 for more that 3 years now. We are currently planning to acquire a new one which will run our Oracle Database.

Unfortunately, the size of our database has not even reached 100 Gb...

Our current database server machine has 8GB of RAM (of which about 2GB is free most of the time)

As for storage is concerned, we have one highly performant LSI D178.

We would like to go for a 100% HP solution.

I have started noting a few thing that i believe would be part of my next server:
a. CPU
Intel Itanium 2 processor (1.6 GHz)
b. Memory
8GB
c. Storage
100GB External -- preferrable fibre-channel disks
d. NIC
2 Gigabit Fibre channel ports
e.


Advices on the latest hardware components that might be worth going to would be most welcomed.

thanking you in advance

kind regards
yogeeraj

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Arunvijai_4
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Re: My next HP server christmas - items to be included in my wish list

a) CPU -- 1.66GHZ IA64 http://www.intel.com/products/processor/itanium2/index.htm

b) Memory -- Comes with the system

c) Storage -- EMC Clariion

d) Fibre Channel -- Emulex or HP 2GB

-Arun

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Eric Antunes
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Re: My next HP server christmas - items to be included in my wish list

Yogeeraj,

You certainly know that the Oracle PA_RISC binaries won't run on Itanium. Do you know what is necessary to do? Will you need to re-install Oracle 9i/10g technology??

Best Regards,

Eric Antunes
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Steven E. Protter
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Re: My next HP server christmas - items to be included in my wish list

XP256 and MSA1000 are good solutions to the disk portion of this issue.

Are you sure you want to migrate away from PA-RISC? Someday you'll be forced but now may not be the right time.

A year ago I polled the three hardware vendors that bid on juf contracts and they indicated that PA-RISC is still strong and has better reliability. The indicated the steep discounts for Itanium servers indicate acceptance problems, at least in certain segments of the market.

Sorry HP.

SEP
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Yogeeraj_1
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Re: My next HP server christmas - items to be included in my wish list

Eric:
We will be reinstalling everything from scratch. Why not going to Itanium? Is it not synonym of performance?

SEP:
You recommend XP256 and MS1000. I fear that the performance of the external storage will be inferior to my current LSI D178. As far as performance is concerned, isnt Itanium processors more performance than the PARISC counterpart?

thank you again for your insights.

kind regards
yogeeraj
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Devender Khatana
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Re: My next HP server christmas - items to be included in my wish list

Hi,

You can also consider Multiple ethernet adapters and APA for grouping them in load-balancing / Hot-standby mode.

This will be more important if you are not using service guard. Moreover for a storage space of 100GB, XP is not recommended as the specs there start in TB's only.

Are you considering two nodes in failover mode or the use of the other will be something else?

If failover is not considered then a RAID controller alongwith a few disk in an external array shall be enough.

If you are going to install everything from scratch and prepared for migrating binaries then I do not think you should have any problems in going for Rx boxes as it is the future technology, we all agree on that and if one has to migrate then why not now alongwith the hardware change.

What are the backup options you are considering ? Will reuse existing tape drives or will procure new? If going for new then consider ultrium2 atleast as this is really quick and will server better in future when your data grows.

HTH,
Devender
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Eric Antunes
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Re: My next HP server christmas - items to be included in my wish list

"Why not going to Itanium? Is it not synonym of performance?"

I really don't know but I will need to know it soon since my HP9000-L2000 servers will be obsoleted until 2008...

I suggest you read this article:

http://www.itweek.co.uk/itweek/analysis/2087349/options-increase-64bit-kit

Best Regards,

Eric Antunes

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Yogeeraj_1
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Re: My next HP server christmas - items to be included in my wish list

Devender:
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Thank you for your reply.

APA is another good option that i should consider. Unfortunately, it seems a bit too pricely!

Yes. XP will be sort of an overkill! Most probably we'll go for another LSI storage box with better performance than the MSA1000...

Are you considering two nodes in failover mode or the use of the other will be something else?
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We have not considered the failover options yet. The two NICs will serve one for intra-server and the other for end-users


What are the backup options you are considering ? Will reuse existing tape drives or will procure new? If going for new then consider ultrium2 atleast as this is really quick and will server better in future when your data grows.
==============================================================================
We already have the latest autoloaders using Ultrium 2 tapes.


Eric:
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isn't this document a bit too old?
I found tons of information at the following url:
http://devresource.hp.com/drc/STK/PA_Integrity.jsp


kind regards
yogeeraj
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Eric Antunes
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Re: My next HP server christmas - items to be included in my wish list

Yogeeraj,

It's a 1 year document but it is a non-HP document (I need impartial docs ;))!

Regards,

Eric Antunes

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Jorge Pons
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Re: My next HP server christmas - items to be included in my wish list

Hi

Have you think in cluster solution?
If you put some ethernet cards, you can configure APA over physical cards, for fault tolerance.
In Storage, the best solution are XP, or EVA, Both over F.C.

Also is very important the networking infraestructure, for the cluster (in this case) or for the users.

Jorge