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old server information

Hi,

New to HP stuff.
We have 4 'old' severs and I am having problems finding any sort of guide as to their 'power / performance' or lack of it. Is there a doc giving information about old systems and relative performance.

We have 1 x 9000/821/D350
2 x 9000/803/D220
1 x 9000/887/G50/H50
All seem to have minimal mem / proc / disk configs by modern standards.

We are thinking of consolidating to 1 or 2 current servers and would like some kind of guidance as to a current equivalent, if anybody would be kind enough to venture an opinion.

Sorry to be vague but I have not dealt with hp systems before. Local vendors don't seem to be very helpful.

Phil.
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Re: old server information

Phil,

HP provides the consultancy for sizing of new servers when you consolidate a few of them. They would take all the info of your system including the no. of users/applications/databases/performance requirement (in terms of I/O, load averages ) from your side. etc. etc., and give out their opinion on the same...

I don't know if we have any doc's on that or so..

Cheers !!!
Mathew.
Cheers !!!
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Re: old server information

Hi Phil

To check machine stats

# echo physmem/D | adb -k /stand/vmunix /dev/kmem
==> gives total memory

# echo itick_per_usec/D | adb -k /stand/vmunix /dev/mem
==> gives processor speed

# echo runningprocs/D | adb -k /stand/vmunix /dev/mem
=> gives number of processor


Drop the -k for v10.10

I will have a look at specific docs for each of the servers and reply

HTH

Steve
take your time and think things through
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Re: old server information

Hi Phil,

It's an opinion only, but I would think you could consolidate onto an L class, or RP54xx, as they're currently called. The G50 was a 96 Mhz machine, the D classes were not much more than that. We bought a used L with 2 440MHz processors for $21,000 last year - they're less now. You could throw in a couple more processors if you wanted. They're around $1800 each nowdays.


Hope this helps,
Pete

Pete
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Re: old server information

Hi

There is a doc produced by HP called hardware at a glance which I will try and post. I don't think my proxy will allow me to. If it fails post me your email address and I will mail it to you. This covers new servers

I would have a look at each of the machines with regard to current usage, disk , cpu memory and databases. With todays hardware you may be able to consolidate all the servers with one purchase

As mentioned HP do offer a consultancy service which won't help if you are trying to hold back the pennies, they will advise you to purchase the biggest and best to suite your needs. There are 2nd hand sellers out there. I used to use one in Birmingham called bpcs

sales@bpcsltd.com

They are really helpful and not to expensive

HTH

Steve
take your time and think things through
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Re: old server information

Thanks for all the replies.

Steven,

Sounds just like what I need. Kindly email pja@man.fwltech.com

Could not see a way of mailing you via your user profile.

Fumbling around in sam has given me most of what I need to know about the systems. Print_manifest was helpfull but is not on all the systems - I assume it is part of ignite. I'm used to an OS that come with a reasonable level of functionality [ mirror, lvm, bootable backups, etc ].

Thanks again,

Phil
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Re: old server information

Steven,

I've been looking for just such a thing as well. Do you have URL for it? If not, I'd love to have a copy:
prandall(at)holstein(dot)com

Thanks,
Pete

Pete
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Re: old server information

Hi Phil

I've got some stuff comparing HP servers going right back to H-class

It's something I've put together in a spreadsheet

If you're interested
[or any one else is]
then let me know & I'll send it thru when I get back from my long weekend

mikef@chs.eu.com
I will put it on our web site one day,
but it's only 99% right at the moment :)

Good luck to you Phil
Mike Fisher
Don't get mad - get naked
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Re: old server information

Phil,

D350 - TPM 1500
D220 - TPM 1730
H50 - TPM 680

compared to a new

rp5450 L2000-550/1 CPU @ 8770 TPM
rp5450 L2000-550/4 CPU @ 34228 TPM

This would mean upgrading to HPUX 11 64 bit.

The fastest 10.20 system would be

K580/6 CPU @ 25000 TPM

You can pick these up 2nd User.

Mike


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Re: old server information

email sent

Regards

Steve
take your time and think things through
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Re: old server information

Afternoon Phil
I've emailed:

1] HP9000 comparison chart

It goes right back to G-Class
Model name [both old & new where appropriate]
CPU - frequency x Qty
PA-Risc type & 64-bit capibility
Max Memory
Max I/O
Max Size & Qty of internal disc drives

2] HP9000 performance

Just a rough TPM

Hope this helps
Mike
Don't get mad - get naked
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Re: old server information

Thanks for all the help.

I've got a better idea now.


Phil.
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