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07-26-2006 01:47 AM
07-26-2006 01:47 AM
Solved! Go to Solution.
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07-26-2006 05:38 AM
07-26-2006 05:38 AM
SolutionBasically your system is specting to find scsi hard drives and no matter what we do, is not going to read from ide internal port to another drive.
Regards,
Jaime.
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07-27-2006 12:42 AM
07-27-2006 12:42 AM
Re: Add IDE drive to ML 350 G3
Yes, you can add an IDE controller, but the controller must have a configurable BIOS, like the SCSI, that can be customized to not boot attached devices. You will find that inexpensive/simple controllers will not offer such a thing and will function similarly to the onboard, hijacking the boot strap.
Try the Adaptec, if I remember it does have a configurable BIOS
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07-27-2006 12:53 AM
07-27-2006 12:53 AM
Re: Add IDE drive to ML 350 G3
Sil 0680 ATA/133 Controller Bios Version 3.2.10
Copyright © 1997-2003 Silicon Image, Inc.
Press F3 to enter Configuration Utility
Press F3 to enter the BIOS. The card will then display the devices attached to the card and will show to Enter the set number of the drive that you want to become/or remove as the boot drive.
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07-27-2006 01:44 AM
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Re: Add IDE drive to ML 350 G3
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08-07-2006 05:08 AM
08-07-2006 05:08 AM
Re: Add IDE drive to ML 350 G3
I've connected an Hitachi 500GB UDMA6 IDE drive. The ML350 G3 is running at Windows Server 2003 SP1.
I've created only an extended partition with an logical volume at the IDE drive. So the system didn't boot from this drive.
But there is another problem: the HP BIOS designers apparently forces to recognize harddisks with PIO mode (DVD writer are recognized e.g. with UDMA2 instead!!), and WS 2003 seems to be not able to correct this or doesn't offer a switch to change the mode.
With Linux I've successfully switched the IDE drive to UDMA5 (because ML 350 G3 IDE chipset "CSB5" is an UDMA5 [ATA100] controller, not UDMA6).
(With PIO mode I've rates about 2MB/sec, with UDMA5 about 58MB/sec.)
(Thank you, HP/Compaq!)
So I'm looking for a method to force the IDE drive to UDMA with Windows Server 2003.
Cheers,
Hasso
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08-23-2006 05:19 PM
08-23-2006 05:19 PM
Re: Add IDE drive to ML 350 G3
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08-24-2006 02:17 AM
08-24-2006 02:17 AM
Re: Add IDE drive to ML 350 G3
First @Alan:
Yes, onboard IDE controller is only placable to position 2 at boot/controller priority. At my system the SmartArray with the bootable partition is at position 1 - similar to your configuration.
The system is reliably booting from SmartArray like expected - I don't think the reason is my only extended partition at the IDE drive. Boot/controller priority seems to be working correctly in this case, I think.
(But keep in mind: at onboard CSB5 controller HP/Compaq BIOS didn't allow > PIO4 for harddisks.)
@LT Chia & Alan:
IMO there's no way to get onboard CSB5 IDE controller running in > PIO4 mode for harddisks.
(HP/Compaq BIOS support would be necessary - and there isn't.)
(By the way: My DVD writer is running at UDMA2. So it's technically possible.)
I've added a fine Promise Ultra133 TX2 controller (66MHz PCI) to the server. Now my UDMA6 IDE harddrive is successfully running at UDMA6 speed (without booting from it).
But don't use the 32-bit slot (by the way 33MHz) - at this slot I wasn't able to prevent booting from connected IDE drives althoug in boot/controller priority it was ordered at the last position (5).
One of the two PCI-X busses works for me - the one which wasn't used by SmartArray (to prevent reducing to 66MHz).
Another 8 hours to find/solve this unexpected disfunction of HP/Compaq BIOS (including Promise support, too).
(THANK YOU, HP/Compaq - AGAIN!)
By the way: be careful of high temperature with a fast IDE drive at bad cooled 5,25" slot positions (little airflow).
Max. cable length is aditionally a problem with a separate controller.
Cheers,
Hasso
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08-29-2006 06:59 AM
08-29-2006 06:59 AM
Re: Add IDE drive to ML 350 G3
When I enter the config utility I am indeed presented with two choices: f1 add hdd f2 remove hdd (my drive is recognized here)
I enter f2 my only option is a question: do you want to change the boot configuration? y/n?
I have tried both each time the system boots and says drive C is a non system disk.
Maybe I am missing something? I still can't bypass the system trying to boot from the ide device.
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08-29-2006 07:40 AM
08-29-2006 07:40 AM
Re: Add IDE drive to ML 350 G3
I'm not e4services, but I'll reply anyway:
Have you read my post, too?
I didn't know the Adaptec controller (probably an externally purchased part) and it's abilities to permit booting from or pushing drive C: into the list of drives.
Are you using the 32-bit slot or one of the 64-bit slots for the Adaptec?
I assume your controller will also subordinate itself to the HP/Compaq BIOS controller and boot order, if you're not using the 32-bit slot.
Tell us about your results.
Hasso