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Re: DL380 G7 - Install O/S to 4TB array...

 
Dave Onex
Frequent Advisor

DL380 G7 - Install O/S to 4TB array...

Hi Folks;

I have a DL380 G7 that I am trying to install DataCenter R2 (x64) on.

The machine has been configured with a single 4Tb (or so) array and the O/S does not want to install on it. It seems to want a 2TB partition (unless I'm mistaken).

I thought that 2TB limit went out the window with the changeover to x64? Am I mistaken or doing something wrong?
Best & thanks!
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Johan Guldmyr
Honored Contributor

Re: DL380 G7 - Install O/S to 4TB array...

Hi, I believe you would need a GPT partition to get over the 2TB.

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/hardware/gg463524

says

"Note: Windows only supports booting from a GPT disk on systems that contain Unified Extensible Firmware Interface (UEFI) boot firmware."

As far as I can tell, this may only be available on the HP integrity servers, or do you see something similar to this when booting?

http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/Document.jsp?objectID=c02666712〈=en&cc=us&taskId=101&prodSeriesId=4194735&prodTypeId=3709945

-- Are you installing it via smartstart CD? Another thought is that maybe your problem is that you have too much RAM installed?
Dave Onex
Frequent Advisor

Re: DL380 G7 - Install O/S to 4TB array...

Hi Johan, thanks for the reply :-)

No, I'm not seeing any errors per se - I just can't seem to create one 4TB volume and install the O/S on it without SmartStart creating a new partition for the O/S.

I'm quite sure it comes back to UEFI as you pointed out. I just assumed a G7 machine such as the 380 would support this natively (using UEFI or whatever means).

Come to think of it, I'm pretty sure my HP Mini 110 has UEFI (seriously!).

I finally accepted the fact that I would have two partitions (one for the O/S and one for data) and then decided to live with it.

When I went into Disk Manager in Win2K '08 though I saw this;

1) 308 GB (O/S created by Smart Start)
2) 1739 GB
3) 1863 GB

No problem, I'll just expand the second to include the 3rd and be done with it. No dice. I can't combine 2 & 3 into one partition.

OK, I create a partition out of #2 - no problem. I then go to #3 to create a partition - it won't. Right-clicking the partition gives me two options - Properties & Help.

Arghhhhh....

I have 144 gigs of memory installed, all the latest firmware updates (so the bulletin you mentioned doesn't apply) and patches/hotfixes from MS. To top it all off, I'm using Data Center so I figured there would be zero issues with boot partition size, or anything else for that matter!
Best & thanks!
Johan Guldmyr
Honored Contributor

Re: DL380 G7 - Install O/S to 4TB array...

Have you now created one logical volume of 300GB for the OS and then one logical volume of 3.7GB for the data? Or how is the array configured?

What if you right-click on the 3rd disk (the disk itself, on the left-most part) in disk management? Maybe you need to use a special type of disk - like dynamic or something like that?
Dave Onex
Frequent Advisor

Re: DL380 G7 - Install O/S to 4TB array...

Hi Johan - sorry for the late reply I got side-tracked for a few days :-(

To answer your questions, it's a single raid 6 array and when I ran smart start it created a small (300 gig) partition for the O/S.

So I have this;

Disk 0 - 3.9TB composed of C: (300 gigs) D: (1.7TB) and an unallocated partition of 1.8TB that I can't do anything with.

I can only shrink C & D but can't do anything with the last 1.8TB.

I was hoping to take that 1.8TB of un-used space and join it to D:
Best & thanks!
Bob_Vance
Esteemed Contributor

Re: DL380 G7 - Install O/S to 4TB array...

Is the drive a GPT drive in Windows?
This *is* a Win2k8 install, correct?
I thought W2k8 always created GPT drives.

It looks like Smart Start isn't so Smart after all -- it should have given you the option to create GPT drives. But then I would have thought that the Win2k8 install would have made it GPT.

When you did the Smart Start, did it bring up ACU so you could create and allocate the Array like you want rather than how it (SS) wants.

If you can run ACU, you could try to create a small 300GB LD (Logical drive) out of the Array to install on and create the remainder as a 3.7 TB LD. These would be two totally separate *drives* in Windows.

Then, once up and running, you should be able to create the second drive as a GPT and get a "full" 3.7 TB partition.


BTW, I prefer having a separate partition for the O/S. I always do it that way.


bv
"The lyf so short, the craft so long to lerne." - Chaucer
Bob_Vance
Esteemed Contributor

Re: DL380 G7 - Install O/S to 4TB array...

I just found this:


"or you can create logical drive in ACU,
just boot smartstart cd, and choose Maintenance)
"


bv
"The lyf so short, the craft so long to lerne." - Chaucer
Dave Onex
Frequent Advisor

Re: DL380 G7 - Install O/S to 4TB array...

Hi Bob;

This is Windows 2008 R2 x64 Datacenter (which is why I would have thought it would certainly have no issues seeing more then 2TB).

In Windows disk manager the disk shows up as 'Basic' so I'm assuming that means it's not GPT :-(

When I ran the smartdisk I noticed something - it would not install the O/S because there was no defined logical array. In the past Smart Disk would always notice this and then ask if I wanted to create an array and then invoke a wizard etc. That never happened so I went into the maintenance section of the Smart Disk and ran the ACU and created a single Raid-6 array.

I did not define any other partitions. I then went back to smart start and did the install and it then asked me if I wanted it to create an install partition and it gave me 3 choices of size (all around 300 megs) so I picked one and carried on.

So, it seems that neither Smart Disk nor Windows chose to go with GPT and I guess that's why I'm stuck with the partitions I have (for right now).

My understanding is tht GPT requires a UEFI BIOS? Can anyone confirm that for me or better yet confirm that the DL380 G7 has a UEFI BIOS that supports GPT?

Feel free to correct me if you see any obvious oversights :-)

and Thanks!
Best & thanks!
Bob_Vance
Esteemed Contributor

Re: DL380 G7 - Install O/S to 4TB array...

Well, what I'm saying is to re-do the install.
(Of course, it's your time, not mine ;>)

In windows, do you now see ONE Physical drive with 2 (or 3) partitions?

If yes,

. First, use SS to run ACU and delete the one Logical drive it previously created.

. Then create TWO LD's one 300GB (or less) and the other with the remaining space.

Again, windows will see these as TWO drives (not partitions).

Install the win2k8 on the first LD.
It'll probably be one partition taking up the entire 300GB.

Then when Win2k8 is up, you should be able to make the second *drive* a GPT drive and create larger partitions.



bv
"The lyf so short, the craft so long to lerne." - Chaucer
Bob_Vance
Esteemed Contributor

Re: DL380 G7 - Install O/S to 4TB array...

You know, as I think about it, it may that these built-in Smart Arrays do not support the features in the external Arrays like the MSA1500, which I'm more familiar with.

You may *not* be able to carve up LDs on these built-in controllers.
You may only have the option of grouping disks which then become the LUN.

So, possibly

"never mind ..."

:[



bv
"The lyf so short, the craft so long to lerne." - Chaucer