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msanjay196
Frequent Advisor

HP Proliant DL360 G5 Server Setup

Hi,

We have the following cd's:


1) Hp SmartStart

whose purpose is to launch the basic configuration

2) HP Management [Software Management Applications for Proliant]

the contains of the CD as described on the cover are:

Hp Systems Insight Manager
Permonance Management Pack
Virtual Machine Management Pack
Server Migration Pack


Now i have just a basic understanding of servers. can someone pls guide me as to what we need to install from THIS CD, when (i.e should we install after the basic installation of windows has been completed?) and why?

thanks
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KarloChacon
Honored Contributor

Re: HP Proliant DL360 G5 Server Setup

hi

for a basic Configuration.

1. OS/Smart Start CD

2. after installation completed
Proliant support Pack.


for the second CD these packages need license if you want to install them see some information on links


Hp Systems Insight Manager (monitoring tool)
http://h18002.www1.hp.com/products/servers/management/hpsim/index.html

Performance Management Pack
http://h18004.www1.hp.com/products/servers/proliantessentials/valuepack/PMP/index.html

Virtual Machine Management (Usually for VMWARE)Packhttp://h18000.www1.hp.com/products/quickspecs/12110_div/12110_div.HTML

Server Migration Pack (it's a tool to clone server ols ones to new ones.)
http://h18004.www1.hp.com/products/servers/proliantessentials/valuepack/migrate/index.html


So like I told you
install your Os with the latest smart start
HP SmartStart CD » 7.90
http://h18023.www1.hp.com/support/files/server/us/download/27730.html

after installation completed install Proliant support Pack 7.9 the latest one too
http://h18023.www1.hp.com/support/files/server/us/download/27534.html

after that depends on the information you read choose any other software.

regards



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msanjay196
Frequent Advisor

Re: HP Proliant DL360 G5 Server Setup

Hi,

Thanks for yr reply.

Some of the stuff their just doesn't make sense.

What are the repercussions if I don't install:

- Hp Systems Insight Manager (monitoring tool)

- Performance Management Pack


the other two i.e
Virtual Machine Management (Usually for VMWARE)Pack and Server Migration Pack (it's a tool to clone server ols ones to new ones.) kinda of make sense.

That is use the VMware pack if you are using VMWare and use the Server migration pack if you are migrating from old to new.

regards
KarloChacon
Honored Contributor

Re: HP Proliant DL360 G5 Server Setup

hi

these are up to you
- Hp Systems Insight Manager (monitoring tool)
- Performance Management Pack
I mean what is the server for?
if you already read information about Hp SIM and the other and you feel you need install them go ahead but if your server is used for something normal....

in conclusion it depends of your environment and your needs

regards
Didn't your momma teach you to say thanks!
msanjay196
Frequent Advisor

Re: HP Proliant DL360 G5 Server Setup

Hi,

the other thing that I have come across is the Vulnerability and Patch Management Pack which you dont seem to mention that I need to install.

Do i need this?

Thankx
KarloChacon
Honored Contributor

Re: HP Proliant DL360 G5 Server Setup

hi

in general these kind of tools are for small - large I don't know about your environment

but if you feel that you need them(and the money does not matter) try:
monitoring and alerts (HP SIM), security, patch and virus (Vulnerability and Patch Management Pack)

by the way
Performance Management Pack is installed when you install HP SIM
"PMP is automatically installed with HP Systems Insight Manager (HP SIM) and operates in integration with HP SIM. "

***
http://h18002.www1.hp.com/products/servers/management/hpsim/plugin-apps.html

regards
I hope this information can help you
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msanjay196
Frequent Advisor

Re: HP Proliant DL360 G5 Server Setup

Hi,

just a quick question - normally if I have a pc - i can boot and install windows 2003.

still trying to figure this thing out ...

so for the proliant why do i need to use the smartstart cd ?

could it be b/c it has the firmware or drivers ? sorry - it might sound to you as a dumb question.
KarloChacon
Honored Contributor

Re: HP Proliant DL360 G5 Server Setup

hi

yes you need the smartstart CD 7.9
http://urlao.com/eicuh

and after that the proliant support pack v7.9
http://urlao.com/fga9k


regards
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Harindra A. Withanage
Occasional Visitor
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Re: HP Proliant DL360 G5 Server Setup

Ok.

If you needs to omit SmartStart CD, you needs to first download your Array controller drivers for the OS you are going to install.

Copy the drivers into a floppy drive and load those during initial phase of OS installation.

NOTE: You might need to connect USB FDD before proceed or use USB disk key.
Once finished, you need to install rest of the drivers separately.
You might needs to install patchs too.

But if you need to do all these in smart way, use SmartStart.
msanjay196
Frequent Advisor

Re: HP Proliant DL360 G5 Server Setup

okay.

then what's the difference btw smartstart and HP SIM?

Would it be appropriate to conclude that smartstart is the cd for the installation and HP SIM is the software to manage the server?

thanks for all your help so far.

KarloChacon
Honored Contributor

Re: HP Proliant DL360 G5 Server Setup

adding to Harindra

I mean about the driver and the floppy
most of the time you don't have to worry about
I mean W2003 includes the driver automatically

but the advantage about Smartstart(SS) is that you install drivers for other components in the server and also you can configure the RAID level using a graphic interface

------------ sooo
about SS and HP SIM
SS is for server deployment (installation, RAId level configuration, reports like IML, Array diagnostics, HW testing) on the other hand HP SIM lets you to monitor and maintenance server's infraestructure...

they are completetly different also you need to pay extra money for having HP SIM while SS comes with the server you buy

check this
SS
" SmartStart provides step-by-step ProLiant server deployment assistance. From array configuration and operating system installation to the update of optimized ProLiant server support software, SmartStart ensures a stable and reliable configuration. Included in the ProLiant Essentials Foundation Pack, SmartStart works with all ProLiant ML and DL 300, 500, and 700 series and BladeSystem (BL) servers."

more here
http://urlao.com/sscd
while HP SIM
"monitor and control your environment which improves operational efficiency and reduces costs."

more here
http://urlao.com/hpsim

regards

don't forget assign some points if the information was helpful


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msanjay196
Frequent Advisor

Re: HP Proliant DL360 G5 Server Setup

Thanks.

[I'll remember the points for sure]

:-)

So the order of installation would be:

1) Hp SmartStart
2) windows 2003
2) PSP 7.9
3) HP SIM

is that correct?

thanks
KarloChacon
Honored Contributor

Re: HP Proliant DL360 G5 Server Setup

hi

yess that's right

1) Hp SmartStart
2) windows 2003
2) PSP 7.9
3) HP SIM

regards
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msanjay196
Frequent Advisor

Re: HP Proliant DL360 G5 Server Setup

are you supposed to install win2K3 sp2 after the installation of windows 2003 or after we have installed PSP 7.9.

thx
KarloChacon
Honored Contributor

Re: HP Proliant DL360 G5 Server Setup

hi

there some issues W2003 SP2 and PSP 7.9
I recommend you to install SP2 and after that PSP 7.8 or 7.7

regards
Didn't your momma teach you to say thanks!
msanjay196
Frequent Advisor

Re: HP Proliant DL360 G5 Server Setup

okay ...

when & how am I notified (down the line)

as to when its safe to install PSP 7.9

thanks
KarloChacon
Honored Contributor

Re: HP Proliant DL360 G5 Server Setup

hi

this is related with some G5 servers don't worry about G4s and for the PSP 7.9 some issues with DL380 G5s and Dl360 G5s

http://urlao.com/dl360nic

I have not heard about others G5s

like I told install PSP 7.7 - 7.9. if course all people is waiting for the next version
I'm sure HP is working on that (I don't know when that is going to be)


regards
Didn't your momma teach you to say thanks!
msanjay196
Frequent Advisor

Re: HP Proliant DL360 G5 Server Setup

I am bit confused with your answer ...

also if I install PSP 7.8 - when & how do I know why its safe to install PSP 7.9?


Is their a web location that tells me? In this case, luckily you told me ...

Are you with me on this one?

thankx
KarloChacon
Honored Contributor

Re: HP Proliant DL360 G5 Server Setup

hi let me see
again (I wrote it again I check and was a little confused I did some mistakes)
"
this is related with some G5 servers don't worry about G4s, G3s and so on, PSP 7.9 has some issues with DL380 G5s and DL360 G5s In fact is something related with W2003 SP2 and PSP 7.9
** SP2 includes TOE and chimney by default which are causing some issues.

http://urlao.com/dl360nic

I have not heard about others G5s servers just DL380 G5s and DL360 G5s

like I told you install 7.7 or 7.8 and of course people are waiting for the next PSP version
I'm sure HP is working on that (I don't know when that is going to be)
"

so
"when & how do I know why its safe to install PSP 7.9"

when = only HP knows that
how = when PSP 7.9 when you have other server different that DL380 G5s and DL360 G5s

I hope this can help you

regards
anything else just let us konw
Didn't your momma teach you to say thanks!
msanjay196
Frequent Advisor

Re: HP Proliant DL360 G5 Server Setup

Hi,

I have setup using smartstart and deployed the server [As recommended].

For some reason, after the windows instalation - I am only able to see the first logical drive (which is a mirror).

Please see the print screen.


http://www.box.net/shared/ajutplxjic

http://www.box.net/shared/0km3ln35p3

http://www.box.net/shared/8kx3yh3yqh



Is this a normal or did I miss something in the configuration.

Could it also be that I need to allocate Disk1 (as you can see on the diskmgmt.msc print screen.

thanx
KarloChacon
Honored Contributor

Re: HP Proliant DL360 G5 Server Setup

hi

yes I can see you have RAID 1 as C:

so you need to enable RAID 5 and created a partition for that so go to Disk Management
and create a new logicalo drive

"Right-click the empty space(unllocated) and choose New Logical Drive. Click Next three times, leaving the default settings intact, give your drive a letter and click Next again. Now choose which file system to format the drive with(NTFS), click Next followed by Finish and then wait while the drive is formatted"

Regards
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msanjay196
Frequent Advisor

Re: HP Proliant DL360 G5 Server Setup

okay. thanks

Should I create it as a primary partition or extended partition?


http://www.box.net/shared/k4bssldcdh
KarloChacon
Honored Contributor

Re: HP Proliant DL360 G5 Server Setup

hi

primary it's OK

http://www.theeldergeek.com/hard_drives_07.htm

regards
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KarloChacon
Honored Contributor

Re: HP Proliant DL360 G5 Server Setup

hi

by the way the RAID levels that you configure it is a good practice I mean RAID 1 for OS and RAID for something else (Data, BD, ...)

anything else just let us know

regards
Didn't your momma teach you to say thanks!
msanjay196
Frequent Advisor

Re: HP Proliant DL360 G5 Server Setup

Hi,

You have done a GREAT job.

thanks.

ps: how do I give you points?