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08-18-2004 01:30 PM
08-18-2004 01:30 PM
If I go with a dual 6/500 PIII (401268-b21) setup, do I still need the thermal kit? Anything else with this option?
BIOS upgrades or other issues I should consider?
Thanks.
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08-18-2004 01:54 PM
08-18-2004 01:54 PM
Re: Processor Upgrade for PL1600 6/350
Yes, you need the thermal kit. The Thermal Upgrade option kit includes one self-adhesive baffle, one fan, four screws, and six self-adhesive gaskets. If you do not install this kit, your server will overheat and shutdown on you.
Here are the Switch settings:
Core/Bus - Ratio
SW1 - SW2
1 2 3 4 - 1 2
66/266 Off On On Off - Off Off
66/300 Off Off On Off - Off Off
66/333 Off On Off Off - Off Off
100/350 On On Off Off - Off Off
100/400 On Off On On - Off Off
100/450 On Off On Off - Off Off
100/500 On Off Off On - Off Off
100/550 On Off Off Off - Off Off
100/600 Off On On On - Off Off
100/650 Off On On Off - Off Off
Officially, HP does not really support the 650MHz processor in this server. 600 is the fastest they recommend.
I hope this helps you? -john
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08-20-2004 05:52 AM
08-20-2004 05:52 AM
Re: Processor Upgrade for PL1600 6/350
Thanks for your input.
I came across another interesting topic on the forum. Another member stated that the I/O board needed to be upgraded depending on the upgrade and the server version. What is that all about?
My plan is to remove the old processor, set the dipps and install the new processors, power modules and thermal kit. Am I missing anything, like BIOS, board version, or other configuration tasks? BTW, I am using NT 4.0
Thanks
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08-20-2004 06:43 AM
08-20-2004 06:43 AM
Re: Processor Upgrade for PL1600 6/350
http://partsurfer.hp.com/cgi-bin/spi/showphoto?partnumber=146057-001
So, yes... you need this new cage.
This is your cage:
http://partsurfer.hp.com/cgi-bin/spi/showphoto?partnumber=313621-001
As far as bios, you need can update to this version:
http://h18023.www1.hp.com/support/files/server/us/locate/1954.html
before you install your O/S
or you can use this version after you install WinNT:
http://h18000.www1.hp.com/support/files/server/us/download/9878.html
Here is a link to all the drivers and software you will need for your server on Windows NT:
http://h18000.www1.hp.com/support/files/server/us/locate/7_1126.html
Hope this helps! -john
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08-20-2004 06:56 AM
08-20-2004 06:56 AM
Re: Processor Upgrade for PL1600 6/350
The I/O cage you need is this one:
http://partsurfer.hp.com/cgi-bin/spi/showphoto?partnumber=155349-001
This one is for the 600MHz sysem.
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08-20-2004 07:09 AM
08-20-2004 07:09 AM
Re: Processor Upgrade for PL1600 6/350
Now I am beginning to question the wisdom of my upgrade decision.
First, I will need a new I/O board? I was under the understanding that the DIPP swithces control the frequency (66mhz or 100 mhz). I also thought the 6/350 ran on a 3.5 multiplier x 100mhz bus. I need to make sure that I DO NOT need a new I/O board, or I fear the project becomes cost prohibitive. So, exactly how do I determine this?
Next, a processor upgrade requires a full os reload? I have to wipe the server clean and reload NT? What about only adding an additional 6/350 proc? Is this due to the requirement of a BIOS upgrade or NT?
Is ther any documentation I can refer to that walks me through the steps of a processor upgrade like the one I am considering?
Thanks for your patience.
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08-20-2004 07:19 AM
08-20-2004 07:19 AM
Re: Processor Upgrade for PL1600 6/350
Yes another 350MHz will pop right in with only the need for the processor and a PPM. No new board$ and switches to set...
As for reloading NT, No! No, you do not have to rebuild the O/S. You simply need to install the new HAL. Quick and easy.
Here is the HAL you need:
http://h18000.www1.hp.com/support/files/server/us/download/10664.html
Hope this helps! -john
p.s., the downloads server at HP is goofed up, the web team says it will be backup in about an hour. /cross fingers
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08-20-2004 07:32 AM
08-20-2004 07:32 AM
Re: Processor Upgrade for PL1600 6/350
Well, you helped me out a lot.
One more question: is that statement valid for adding 2 new 450 PII processors (add power modules, set switches, etc)? Or, is it anything over 350 requires boards, files, etc...
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08-20-2004 07:34 AM
08-20-2004 07:34 AM
Re: Processor Upgrade for PL1600 6/350
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;156358&Product=nts40
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;142660&Product=nts40
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;124541
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;148245
The effect of all this is that you will need to re-apply your service packs and such!
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08-20-2004 08:13 AM
08-20-2004 08:13 AM
Re: Processor Upgrade for PL1600 6/350
http://partsurfer.hp.com/cgi-bin/spi/showphoto?partnumber=313621-001
Though, with the 500MHz you need two new PPM's I think.
Does this help?
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08-20-2004 08:33 AM
08-20-2004 08:33 AM
Re: Processor Upgrade for PL1600 6/350
What do you think:
2x 401268-B21 (PIII 500mhz 512 option kit)
Proc kits should include power modules
No Thermal kit required
No I/O board required
Set Jumper settings to 100/500 (chart above)
Install HAL as indicated above
That might be the best/easiest route
I really don't understand the I/O board issue. From the jumper settngs above, it looks like all procs above 333 run on the 100mhz bus, which would indicate no difference between the I/O boards. Maybe I'll pull apart the server and see what part number is on the I/O and go from there.
Now, off to read those documents you have provided.
Thanks.
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08-20-2004 08:51 AM
08-20-2004 08:51 AM
Re: Processor Upgrade for PL1600 6/350
You WILL need the thermal kit! Without it, this will be a short lived solution. LOL
So here is your parts list:
1 x Thermal Kit: 144003-B22 (may need to order this as a Spare Part)
2 x PPM: - 329267-001
2 x 550MHz Processors: - 114525-001
No I/O cage needed.
Good?
Bios update after the upgrade is complete...
Hope this helps you! -john
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08-20-2004 08:52 AM
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08-20-2004 08:57 AM
08-20-2004 08:57 AM
Re: Processor Upgrade for PL1600 6/350
Here is the Spare Part Number for the Thermal Upgrade Kit: 161144-001
Hope this helps! -john
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08-20-2004 09:21 AM
08-20-2004 09:21 AM
Re: Processor Upgrade for PL1600 6/350
I must admit I am a little confused why the I/O cage would accept a 500mhz PIII (401268-B21) and not a 550mhz PIII (124779-B21) or a 600mhz PIII (153555-B21). Was the PII available in 500mhz?
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08-20-2004 10:01 AM
08-20-2004 10:01 AM
SolutionThe I/O cage has the voltage selection on it. When you move up to a 550MHz you change voltage from that of the 500MHz and lower processors. And, according to HP, when you move to the 600MHz the voltage is different from the 350-500 as well as the 550. Thus, they sell 3 different cages.
Whew... a lot said there.
The list I did above is for the Spare part Numbers. You are not likely to find a vendor who can get these as Option Parts (parts ending in XXXXXX-B21 which would be cheaper) So you are likely going to have to use the Spare part Numbers (parts ending in XXXXXX-001) to order this upgrade:
1 x Thermal Upgrade Kit: 161144-001
2 x PPM: - 329267-001
2 x 500MHz Processors: - 114525-001
This is the list of items you need to buy.
Then the HAL and re-patch your O/S.
Then the Bios update, if necessary.
Good?
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08-20-2004 10:19 AM
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08-20-2004 10:28 AM
08-20-2004 10:28 AM
Re: Processor Upgrade for PL1600 6/350
Now you just have to find some of that end of year money hiding in the budget to buy the parts! ;-)
G'luck! I am glad I could help you. -john
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