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Processor Upgrade for PL1600 6/350

I am looking to upgrade my PL1600 6/350 512 server to a dual 6/600 PIII 512 setup using 2 x 153555-b21. It looks like I will need the thermal kit (144003-b22) in addition to the procs. Is there anything else I will need to complete the upgrade?

If I go with a dual 6/500 PIII (401268-b21) setup, do I still need the thermal kit? Anything else with this option?

BIOS upgrades or other issues I should consider?

Thanks.
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JohnWRuffo
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Re: Processor Upgrade for PL1600 6/350

You will need the Processor Power Modules for the processors if you do not buy them as a kit as well.

Yes, you need the thermal kit. The Thermal Upgrade option kit includes one self-adhesive baffle, one fan, four screws, and six self-adhesive gaskets. If you do not install this kit, your server will overheat and shutdown on you.

Here are the Switch settings:
Core/Bus - Ratio
SW1 - SW2
1 2 3 4 - 1 2
66/266 Off On On Off - Off Off
66/300 Off Off On Off - Off Off
66/333 Off On Off Off - Off Off
100/350 On On Off Off - Off Off
100/400 On Off On On - Off Off
100/450 On Off On Off - Off Off
100/500 On Off Off On - Off Off
100/550 On Off Off Off - Off Off
100/600 Off On On On - Off Off
100/650 Off On On Off - Off Off
Officially, HP does not really support the 650MHz processor in this server. 600 is the fastest they recommend.

I hope this helps you? -john
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Re: Processor Upgrade for PL1600 6/350

John,

Thanks for your input.

I came across another interesting topic on the forum. Another member stated that the I/O board needed to be upgraded depending on the upgrade and the server version. What is that all about?

My plan is to remove the old processor, set the dipps and install the new processors, power modules and thermal kit. Am I missing anything, like BIOS, board version, or other configuration tasks? BTW, I am using NT 4.0

Thanks
JohnWRuffo
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Re: Processor Upgrade for PL1600 6/350

The installation of the new I/O cage is for the systems using a 66MHz Bus and they need to go to a 100MHz bus. Here is the part:
http://partsurfer.hp.com/cgi-bin/spi/showphoto?partnumber=146057-001

So, yes... you need this new cage.

This is your cage:
http://partsurfer.hp.com/cgi-bin/spi/showphoto?partnumber=313621-001

As far as bios, you need can update to this version:
http://h18023.www1.hp.com/support/files/server/us/locate/1954.html
before you install your O/S

or you can use this version after you install WinNT:
http://h18000.www1.hp.com/support/files/server/us/download/9878.html

Here is a link to all the drivers and software you will need for your server on Windows NT:
http://h18000.www1.hp.com/support/files/server/us/locate/7_1126.html

Hope this helps! -john
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Re: Processor Upgrade for PL1600 6/350

Whoops! Very sorry!

The I/O cage you need is this one:
http://partsurfer.hp.com/cgi-bin/spi/showphoto?partnumber=155349-001
This one is for the 600MHz sysem.
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Re: Processor Upgrade for PL1600 6/350

John,

Now I am beginning to question the wisdom of my upgrade decision.

First, I will need a new I/O board? I was under the understanding that the DIPP swithces control the frequency (66mhz or 100 mhz). I also thought the 6/350 ran on a 3.5 multiplier x 100mhz bus. I need to make sure that I DO NOT need a new I/O board, or I fear the project becomes cost prohibitive. So, exactly how do I determine this?

Next, a processor upgrade requires a full os reload? I have to wipe the server clean and reload NT? What about only adding an additional 6/350 proc? Is this due to the requirement of a BIOS upgrade or NT?

Is ther any documentation I can refer to that walks me through the steps of a processor upgrade like the one I am considering?

Thanks for your patience.
JohnWRuffo
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Re: Processor Upgrade for PL1600 6/350

Yeah,.. hardware upgrades to this system can get very expensive quick... to the point of looking at a newer server to replace it.

Yes another 350MHz will pop right in with only the need for the processor and a PPM. No new board$ and switches to set...

As for reloading NT, No! No, you do not have to rebuild the O/S. You simply need to install the new HAL. Quick and easy.

Here is the HAL you need:
http://h18000.www1.hp.com/support/files/server/us/download/10664.html

Hope this helps! -john

p.s., the downloads server at HP is goofed up, the web team says it will be backup in about an hour. /cross fingers
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Re: Processor Upgrade for PL1600 6/350

John,

Well, you helped me out a lot.

One more question: is that statement valid for adding 2 new 450 PII processors (add power modules, set switches, etc)? Or, is it anything over 350 requires boards, files, etc...



JohnWRuffo
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Re: Processor Upgrade for PL1600 6/350

Here is some bathroom reading material to get to know for your HAL upgrade:

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;156358&Product=nts40

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;142660&Product=nts40

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;124541

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;148245

The effect of all this is that you will need to re-apply your service packs and such!
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JohnWRuffo
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Re: Processor Upgrade for PL1600 6/350

The 450MHz processor is still a PII processor... yes... so you should still be good and not need a new I/O cage. I am fairly sure even the 500Mhz and you do not have to change out the I/O cage. Click here:
http://partsurfer.hp.com/cgi-bin/spi/showphoto?partnumber=313621-001

Though, with the 500MHz you need two new PPM's I think.

Does this help?
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Re: Processor Upgrade for PL1600 6/350

Ok, I think I am closing in on my solution.

What do you think:
2x 401268-B21 (PIII 500mhz 512 option kit)
Proc kits should include power modules
No Thermal kit required
No I/O board required
Set Jumper settings to 100/500 (chart above)
Install HAL as indicated above
That might be the best/easiest route

I really don't understand the I/O board issue. From the jumper settngs above, it looks like all procs above 333 run on the 100mhz bus, which would indicate no difference between the I/O boards. Maybe I'll pull apart the server and see what part number is on the I/O and go from there.

Now, off to read those documents you have provided.

Thanks.

JohnWRuffo
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Re: Processor Upgrade for PL1600 6/350

Mark:

You WILL need the thermal kit! Without it, this will be a short lived solution. LOL
So here is your parts list:

1 x Thermal Kit: 144003-B22 (may need to order this as a Spare Part)
2 x PPM: - 329267-001
2 x 550MHz Processors: - 114525-001

No I/O cage needed.

Good?

Bios update after the upgrade is complete...

Hope this helps you! -john
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Re: Processor Upgrade for PL1600 6/350

Whoops! 500Mhz Processors... my typo!
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Re: Processor Upgrade for PL1600 6/350

Just discovered the I/O cage change. The voltages are diferent for the 550MHz and then again for the 600MHz processors. Thus, you have to change the cage.

Here is the Spare Part Number for the Thermal Upgrade Kit: 161144-001

Hope this helps! -john
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Re: Processor Upgrade for PL1600 6/350

So, we would be OK (i.e., no new I/O cage)with the PIII 500mhz processor (401268-B21)?

I must admit I am a little confused why the I/O cage would accept a 500mhz PIII (401268-B21) and not a 550mhz PIII (124779-B21) or a 600mhz PIII (153555-B21). Was the PII available in 500mhz?
JohnWRuffo
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Re: Processor Upgrade for PL1600 6/350

No no... the Processor cage is slotted to accept the processors that are packaged to work in it. All the processors sold for this server (by part number) have the right packaging and heatsink and they will fit in the processor cage reguardless of PII or PIII.

The I/O cage has the voltage selection on it. When you move up to a 550MHz you change voltage from that of the 500MHz and lower processors. And, according to HP, when you move to the 600MHz the voltage is different from the 350-500 as well as the 550. Thus, they sell 3 different cages.
Whew... a lot said there.

The list I did above is for the Spare part Numbers. You are not likely to find a vendor who can get these as Option Parts (parts ending in XXXXXX-B21 which would be cheaper) So you are likely going to have to use the Spare part Numbers (parts ending in XXXXXX-001) to order this upgrade:

1 x Thermal Upgrade Kit: 161144-001
2 x PPM: - 329267-001
2 x 500MHz Processors: - 114525-001

This is the list of items you need to buy.

Then the HAL and re-patch your O/S.

Then the Bios update, if necessary.

Good?
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Re: Processor Upgrade for PL1600 6/350

Outstanding.
JohnWRuffo
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Re: Processor Upgrade for PL1600 6/350

Thank you!
Now you just have to find some of that end of year money hiding in the budget to buy the parts! ;-)

G'luck! I am glad I could help you. -john
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