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Proliant 1600 - Maximum Upgrade potential

 
Jasp80
Occasional Advisor

Proliant 1600 - Maximum Upgrade potential

Hi, We currently have approx 6 Proliant 1600s, each running PII 400s with 256mb RAM (DIMMS). What is the maximum upgrade we can do to the servers in terms of Processor upgrade and the amount of RAM that the server can handle without replacing the motherboard? Can they cope with P3s or are we restricted to PIIs?

If we decide to update the motherboard/processor cage to run a decent spec CPU what would the options be?

Thanks

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Terri Harris
Honored Contributor

Re: Proliant 1600 - Maximum Upgrade potential

The Proliant 1600 can go up to 1 GB of RAM and a PIII 600 MHz processor (for HP/Compaq tested upgrades).

313616-B21: 256 MB 100 MHz registered ECC SDRAM RAM

153555-B21: Pentium III 6000 MHz with 512K cache
144003-B22: Thermal upgrade option kit (required if upgrading CPU past 500 MHz).

Check to see if this will be a cost-effective upgrade for you.
Jasp80
Occasional Advisor

Re: Proliant 1600 - Maximum Upgrade potential

Thanks for that. Cheers.
e4services
Honored Contributor

Re: Proliant 1600 - Maximum Upgrade potential

Yes, to verify, that is correct on the memory, Maximum memory: 1024MB,Standard memory: 64MB removable, Slots: 4 (4 banks of 1), Module Size: 256MB

ANd yes, the 1600 was never sold with greater than a PIII/600/512, but my guess is because it was the fastest 512 cache PIII that Intel made. Currently we have had good success with 1.2GHz upgrades kits for these systems, you can obtain significantly faster performance (up to 1.4GHz) from your server by upgrading to Intel Pentium III-Sâ ¢ ("Tualatin" core, 512KB L2 cache) processors with thi
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Hugo Teerds
Advisor

Re: Proliant 1600 - Maximum Upgrade potential

That is an interesting option you mention there . . . . But what about the voltage regulators? And is there a complete update kit available somewhere? Does it also work as a dual processor system?
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ernst limbrunner
Trusted Contributor

Re: Proliant 1600 - Maximum Upgrade potential

hi neil

the proliant thermal design does not allow for cpus faster than 600 mhz.

the bios does not allow faster processors either.

if your original system is a 450 mhz version or higher, the ppm (processor power module) should provide enough power to run a 600 mhz processor.

the compaq ppms use voltage-id technology to provide the correct voltage to the cpu.
no bios or switch settings are required after a cpu upgrade. (ignore the speed dip switches on the system board - p3 cpus ignore them also)

dont forget to upgrade the bios BEFORE replacing a processor.

use this site for parts information:

partsurfer.hp.com

best regards
ernesto

Alex Muck
Occasional Visitor

Re: Proliant 1600 - Maximum Upgrade potential

I've seen a lot of the 'slotket' upgrades for Slot 1 computers floating about the net. Why exactly won't a Proliant 1600 support something like this? Even if the BIOS reports the CPU name incorrectly, isn't it possible to still run the faster CPU? Also, the slotket boards themselves regulate the voltage for the socket CPU, so as long as it gets more than enough power, it should be able to adjust it to the lower reired voltage of a socket P3.
Paul Hunt
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Re: Proliant 1600 - Maximum Upgrade potential

Terri Harris posted "The Proliant 1600 can go up to 1 GB of RAM and a PIII 600 MHz processor (for HP/Compaq tested upgrades)."

Does that mean a single PIII processor? Or can I fill both slots with PIII 600 MHz processors?

Thanks
JohnWRuffo
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Re: Proliant 1600 - Maximum Upgrade potential

The ProLiant 1600 is a dual processor capable server. Yes, you can install two 600MHz processors.
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JohnWRuffo
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Re: Proliant 1600 - Maximum Upgrade potential

Paul:

In order to upgrade you server to use the 600MHz processors you will need to install a new I/O cage to support them.
http://partsurfer.hp.com/cgi-bin/spi/showphoto?partnumber=155349-001

Processor:
http://partsurfer.hp.com/cgi-bin/spi/showphoto?partnumber=155592-001

PPM:
http://partsurfer.hp.com/cgi-bin/spi/showphoto?partnumber=329267-001

So, you will need Spare part Numbers:
1 x I/O Cage: 155349-001
1 x Thermal Upgrade Kit: 161144-001
2 x 600MHz Processor w/heatsink: 155592-001
2 x Processor Power Module: 329267-001

G'luck! -john
Hope this helps!
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Mike Percival_1
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Re: Proliant 1600 - Maximum Upgrade potential

Right. From personal experimentation, these beasts will happily run PIII-850MHz processors. Don't use Compaq original parts, but instead use IBM processors. These have a different heatsink which is slightly wider and have more fins and hence more surface area for cooling. By using the IBM versions, you will NOT need any kind of thermal upgrade kit.

I am now running my 1600 with a pair of IBM P-III 850 MHz CPU's (S-Spec SL43F) which I picked up on ebay for £5.00 (US$9) and they are correctly identified and speed tested using SiSoft Sandra. They run cooler than the two Compaq P-II 450MHz processors I had originally thanks to having nearly three square inches more surface area on the heatsinks. I also tried a pair of ex-Dell Poweredge P-III 750 CPUs (with 80mm fans on each heatsink) and these worked just fine with a few mods to the fan wiring.

The system seems to run fine and benchmarks ok with Tualatin core Celeron processors fitted to a Powerleap Socket370-Slot1 Adaptor but performance is not so good even at 1.3GHz because of the limitations of the Celeron.

For my money, a couple of IBM P-III 850's is best bet.

Re: Proliant 1600 - Maximum Upgrade potential

Mike,

That's very interesting. Can you provide any detail to your configuration, including IBM part numbers, BIOS, DIP switch settings, I/O board used, etc...

Thanks,

Mark
McKaamos
Occasional Advisor

Re: Proliant 1600 - Maximum Upgrade potential

Mike, Could you please tell me how you got those 850's working?
I have a couple of P3-700's here, but the system keeps telling me it has discovered unsupported CPU's.
Even with the latest firmware it keeps doing that. I've already got a couple of upgrade VRM's, so that won't be the issue.
Do I need special jumpersettings?
cabledealer
Occasional Visitor

Re: Proliant 1600 - Maximum Upgrade potential

I've tried a P3-650mhz CPU with markings on the cpu -- 650/256/100/1.65v S1 . It failed.
It didnt worked on this proliant 1600 server with someguy's pin settings (mike daryl).. perhaps im missing something...

Core/Bus Ratio
SW1 SW2
1 2 3 4 1 2
66/266 Off On On Off Off Off
66/300 Off Off On Off Off Off
66/333 Off On Off Off Off Off
100/350 On On Off Off Off Off
100/400 On Off On On Off Off
100/450 On Off On Off Off Off
100/500 On Off Off On Off Off
100/550 On Off Off Off Off Off
100/600 Off On On On Off Off
100/650 Off On On Off Off Off

this is what i've found on the net. Anyone got further undocumented settings ?

Oh, DID ANYONE TRUELY made it possible to work with CPU higher then 600mhz ??

Thanks,.
Sami Osterlund
Occasional Visitor

Re: Proliant 1600 - Maximum Upgrade potential

Hi Mike,

How did you manage to get over the "unsupported processor detected, system halted" phase. I tried every jumper setting I could figure out, but weren't successful with PIII 733 nor with Tualatin 1.2GHz. I would really appreciate the information since I'm about to order new processors for my 1600. I had the the latest system bios downloadable from HP.

Thanks & Regards,