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Darren Palmer
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Proliant 3000 CPU Upgrade

I have a Proliant 3000 with dual 300 cpu's. What am I able to upgrade to? I show a maximum processor speed of 600 listed in the reference guide but I've found that doesn't necessarily mean the unit I have will support it. Thanks in advance for the help.
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Theo Hill_1
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Re: Proliant 3000 CPU Upgrade

The fastest processors supported in your server would be 333MHz. You have a Gen 1 Proliant 3000.
Janine Bertolo
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Re: Proliant 3000 CPU Upgrade

Hi Darren;

The systemboard in your current PL3000 will support two 333's max.

Hope that helps!

Janine
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Frank Kaufman
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Re: Proliant 3000 CPU Upgrade

If you want to upgrade it to a CPU above 333, you have to replace the system board with a different version. On yours the CPU and the VRM are on a card that plugs into a socket on the system board. On the newer system board the CPU and the VRM are on the system board itself. This newer system board will accomodate PII and PIII processors from 350 to 650MHz. No other chassis component needs to be replaced to do the upgrade. However, the memory modules are different so you will not be able to use the RAM from the old board. These system boards (used) are readily available from different sources at a very reasonable price. I have done many of these upgrades and it is an easy task.
David_330
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Re: Proliant 3000 CPU Upgrade

so if i understand this correctly, there are two generations of proliant server, gen. I and II. since my server runs at 333, i have a gen I system correct?

for me to upgrade to a processor 550 or 600 i will need a new system board which is the motherboard. also the memory will need to be changed also.

also mentioned in this forum, a part number was referenced regarding the 100mhz gtl bus and sdram (179766-b21). is this what i need?
Thanks again everyone.
David_330
Advisor

Re: Proliant 3000 CPU Upgrade

also does anyone know part number for the gen II system board that will allow me to accept processors 550 or 600?

thanks again.
Thanks again everyone.
Sunil Jerath
Honored Contributor

Re: Proliant 3000 CPU Upgrade

Hello David,
Here is what you need depending upon the CPUs:

System I/O Board with Tray (PCI/ISA), (400, 450, and 500 MHz) 179779-001 ;

System I/O Board with Tray (PCI/ISA), (550 MHz only) - 146937-001

System I/O Board with Tray (PCI/ISA), (600 MHz only) -155347-001.
These are the spare part nos.

Regards,
David_330
Advisor

Re: Proliant 3000 CPU Upgrade

so to upgrade my proliant 3000 333mhz to 600mhz, i would purchase the system i/o board part #155347-001?

then purchase the 600mhz cpu, vrm, and heat sink kit plus the memory?

also, since i have a old prolaint 5500 (ppro 200). can i purchase a system i/o board and replace the current board basically making it a 3000 like the description above?

thanks again for your response.
Thanks again everyone.
Sunil Jerath
Honored Contributor

Re: Proliant 3000 CPU Upgrade

Hello David,
Yes that is correct. For PL5500 you need the System I/O Board P/N 328699-001.

Regards,
David_330
Advisor

Re: Proliant 3000 CPU Upgrade

wow your up late! :-)

so the board for the 5500 is a actual upgrade for the for the server or is it a board from another model that fits?

the reason why i ask is because i want to know what upgrade kit i need to purchase.

on a side note, what is your opinion on these upgrades? am i just better off purchasing a new server? do you recommend any new / used sites for these parts?

thanks again! :-)
Thanks again everyone.
David_330
Advisor

Re: Proliant 3000 CPU Upgrade

also regarding cpu upgrades, do i need to purchase the compaq cpu upgrade kits for the prolaint or can i purchase the cpu, vrm and and heat sink separately?

what i'm basically thinking is that i will get the pieces on ebay which seems a lot cheaper then purchasing a kit.

is there anything different with the kit that i can't get piece by piece?

Thanks again everyone.
Terry Hutchings
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Re: Proliant 3000 CPU Upgrade

The 5500 can be upgraded, but you must understand the 5500 (after the upgrade with pn 328699-001) will not be the same thing as a 3000. This machine will require Xeon procs, memory boards, VRMs and EDO memory. The existing memory may be fine, but it will require different memory boards.

There are and never have been upgrades kits to upgrade these machines to what's currently being talked about. There is an upgrade kit to upgrade the 3000 to a 5500 (pn 100675-B21), but a new server may cost less than this kit. If you put this pn into Google it'll come up with a few people still selling this.

As far the processors are concerned: the basic items in the kit can all be purchased separately, except for the misc. items, such as the installation instructions, etc.
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David_330
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Re: Proliant 3000 CPU Upgrade

thanks Terry for clarifying everything up.

it looks like i almost have everything to make this upgrade happen. all i need now is the memory board and memory.

you mentioned i might be able to use the existing memory. have you or anyone out there tried it?
Thanks again everyone.
Terry Hutchings
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Re: Proliant 3000 CPU Upgrade

Are we talking about the PL3000 memory? If so, then the memory from the original machine can't be used. The PII or PIII processor requires SDRAM. I would recommend getting one or more of the following:
317745-001 for 64MB
317756-001 for 128MB
317749-001 for 256MB
317748-001 for 512MB

The memory needs to be upgraded one dimm at all time (not pairs like the current 300MHZ server) up to 4GB.

When I said the existing memory may be able to be used, I meant for the PL5500.
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David_330
Advisor

Re: Proliant 3000 CPU Upgrade

thanks for the additional info. Terry.

so i'll be able to use the current memory but not the memory board. are memory board also called trays?

after pricing some of this stuff out this stuff can really add up$$$

Thanks again everyone.
David_330
Advisor

Re: Proliant 3000 CPU Upgrade

hi everyone!

ok, i've my my first attempt at putting all the pieces together for upgrading my PL5500.

i just picked up a xeon PIII 500 for 50.00 with vrm on ebay. what do you think? did i pay too much?

also there is a system board for 75.00 out there. is that a good deal?

the other items i need are the memory board and heatsink. am i missing anything else? i have the memory already.

also since i will be using one processor on the sys board, do i need those terminators to colver up the cpu slots? sorry i don't know they are called exactly.
Thanks again everyone.
Terry Hutchings
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Re: Proliant 3000 CPU Upgrade

Yes, they're terminators and they are required. PN 329271-001.
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David_330
Advisor

Re: Proliant 3000 CPU Upgrade

does the terminator need to be a compaq terminator? or can i just pick up any slot 2 terminator? sorry if that was a stupid question.

my goal to to not go over 175.00 for the complete upgrade. does anything this is possible?
Thanks again everyone.
David_330
Advisor

Re: Proliant 3000 CPU Upgrade

does the terminator need to be a compaq terminator? or can i just pick up any slot 2 terminator? sorry if that was a stupid question.

my goal to to not go over 175.00 for the complete upgrade. does anyone think this is possible?
Thanks again everyone.
Terry Hutchings
Honored Contributor

Re: Proliant 3000 CPU Upgrade

I couldn't say whether other manufacturers terminators will work (possibly too tall or other factors). I do know the Compaq ones will work.
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David_330
Advisor

Re: Proliant 3000 CPU Upgrade

thanks Terry for all your help :-)

i'll keep you and everyone posted.
Thanks again everyone.
David_330
Advisor

Re: Proliant 3000 CPU Upgrade

hello all.

i was able to purchase a proliant 3000 system board that supports a PIII 550mhz processor.

instead of purchasing a proliant 550 cpu upgrade kit, can i purchase any PIII cpu running at 550 and get the vrm and heat sink?

also i noticed that some of the PIII 550 have built in fans. will those pose a problem? the cpu's in the proliant kits don't have fans???

thanks everyone!
Thanks again everyone.
herb_4
Advisor

Re: Proliant 3000 CPU Upgrade

reguarding the 5500 question, here is the answer (because i said so and i did it myself). if you remove the 5500 processor card, the 3000 PII card WILL slip in and run. now let me give you the bad news. it is a gen 1 3000 limited to 333 and 512 MB memory. any board that fits the 5500 will fit the 3000, and vice versa. as long as you get a matching pair of processors, and get compliant heatsinks with or without fans it will work, but make sure you have the proper vrm to function the processor. any questions ask me i've learned a lot fron these systems, i have 10 servers in my house, from 1600's to 3000's and a few non compaq multiprocessor, intel and abit to be exact.