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тАО07-29-2004 03:48 PM
тАО07-29-2004 03:48 PM
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тАО07-30-2004 05:37 AM
тАО07-30-2004 05:37 AM
SolutionFirst, the basic 5i Plus (which is what is on the DL380 G3) controller does not have a Battery Backed Write Cache (BBWC). This is one reason why your writes are so slow, and also why you cannot set the cache to anything but 100% reads. You can add a BBWC, which will improve your performance. See http://h18004.www1.hp.com/products/servers/proliantstorage/arraycontrollers/smartarray5iplus/index.html for more info on the 5i+. What you need is the Battery Backed Write Cache Enabler Option Kit (p/n 255514-B21).
Another reason that you are seeing slow performance is that you only have 3 drives in a RAID 5 configuration. In general, the more drives you have in a RAID 5, the better the performance. So adding a couple of drives to it would definitely help.
Another reason is that the integrated 5i controller runs on a slower internal PCI bus (see http://h18004.www1.hp.com/products/servers/proliantstorage/arraycontrollers/feature.html). Converting to a standard PCI Smart Controller (like a Smart 64x or 640x) would also help. See this for more info http://h18004.www1.hp.com/products/servers/proliantstorage/arraycontrollers/index.html
There's a bunch of good white papers here regarding Smart Controlelrs (advantages of BBWC, comparisons, etc.)
http://h18004.www1.hp.com/products/servers/proliantstorage/arraycontrollers/documentation.html
Hope this helps.
Thanks,
Doug
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тАО07-30-2004 06:37 AM
тАО07-30-2004 06:37 AM
Re: SLOW Disk I/O on DL380 G3
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тАО07-30-2004 07:01 AM
тАО07-30-2004 07:01 AM
Re: SLOW Disk I/O on DL380 G3
The BBWCE will be a great deal less than another RAID controller. It will give you the functionality you need for around $200.00 (depending on your vendor)
You need Option part Number: 255514-B21
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тАО07-31-2004 03:32 AM
тАО07-31-2004 03:32 AM
Re: SLOW Disk I/O on DL380 G3
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тАО07-31-2004 10:32 AM
тАО07-31-2004 10:32 AM
Re: SLOW Disk I/O on DL380 G3
That said, the more cache you provide a read or write path, the better that performance will be. The cache accelerates the opperation. If you allocate a 50% / 50% cache ratio then each path will benefit equally (which HP sets as default). You can then decide if your application requires another mix.
The BBWCE is a great option for the 5i controller. It really is a must and it can be had for rather cheap!
G'luck! -john
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тАО08-04-2004 03:09 AM
тАО08-04-2004 03:09 AM
Re: SLOW Disk I/O on DL380 G3
We are a software development company. The software we're using on these servers does pretty simple operations: reads from some files on disk (1 at a time), does some operations in memory, writes to disk. No external dependences like networking or a database or even the registry or anything. Imagine my astonishment last week when a user said that the process that he runs on his laptop, where it takes about 3 hours, was run on a new DL380 G3 where it took 9 hours! Of course I didn't believe him, but sure enough, it was true. Identical setup in both places.
I ran some benchmarks and assumed the problem was the disk write speed since that was reportedly slow. Even with the write speed better, performance did not improve even by 1 second! Again, all these little programs are doing is reading from disk, doing a little thinking, and writing to disk.
Benchmarks look fine for CPU, memory, and I'd even say disk with the cache enabled. I've tried turning hyperthreading on/off - no difference. 3 disks in RAID 5, Windows 2003. Latest BIOS / drivers.
Can anyone please help!? I'm getting a lot of heat for spending all this money on new servers that perform slower than laptops! But the strange thing is, I can't even pinpoint it to what the problem might be! Please help. Thank you.
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тАО09-04-2004 08:55 AM
тАО09-04-2004 08:55 AM
Re: SLOW Disk I/O on DL380 G3
We are having the same problems with our 380. However, ours seems to run fine locally (moving/ copying files), it is when we try to write files from a network client that the I/O slows to a crawl.
Reading/copying from the server to a client seems comparable to peer-to-peer client data transfers, but when we try to write files the transfer rate is unaccepatble.
We have had everything checked and are unable to resolve the issue. Our reseller's techs put the system on one of their test computers via a xover cable and had the same problems, so we know that the server is the root cause and not the network or clients, however they are unable to tell us why.
All diagnostics report no problems. We even tried putting in a different NIC, since it seemed that the issue only occurred during network writes, and that made no difference.
The transfer rates we are seeing are 400mb in 3.5 minutes down, and 400mb in 1+hours up. We cannot locate the bottleneck.
This brand new server is virtually worthless to us. Have you had any luck yet?
Thanks.
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тАО09-04-2004 09:39 AM
тАО09-04-2004 09:39 AM
Re: SLOW Disk I/O on DL380 G3
My conclusion on that goes like this: If the write cache sped up writing without direct relation to file size, I should see no difference in writing a file that's 20 MB vs. one that's 2 GB. I should expect a write time that has roughly linear performance for the duration of the write (in this example, the 2 GB file should take about 100 times longer to write than the 20 MB file). I received exactly the performance that I had suspected and asked about. In the example above, it would take much more than 100 X longer to write the 2 GB file in a file copy because the write cache gets used up quickly and you're back to the limits of the hardware as if you had no cache.
With our servers, LAN transfers actually work a bit faster than local copies (copying a file from the disk to itself). I would guess this is because the same disk (well, set of disks, really) is doing the reading AND the writing. The read speed on these servers is good, it's just the writes that stink. I will say that if you're using a program that is not writing large files all at once, then the BBWCE does enhance write performance. File copies and the like, however, are slow.
If you come up with any answers, please post back.