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jason_396
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i recently purchased a ProLiant 6000

hello guys . could some one point me to a place to get manuals for this one ? also since mine is a the pentium pro model with the quad 200 mhz cpus , could i upgrade it ?
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jason_396
Advisor

Re: i recently purchased a ProLiant 6000

please i dont mean to sound dumb but what are the foll links ? this is my first server so i am so in the dark here . i have setup a mail server on a old pentium . but nothing like this .
Stf
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jason_396
Advisor

Re: i recently purchased a ProLiant 6000

thank you for the link to cpus . whats the highest i can upgrade this thing ? also can i install a OS , just like any other pc ( ie windows , linux ) i hate to be a pain or a trouble to any one here . please bear with me . i dont me mean to sound lazy , but i am just so lost :( when i boot it up and hit f10 it says partition tools not loaded and such .
Stf
Esteemed Contributor

Re: i recently purchased a ProLiant 6000

Did you have a smart start CD with the proliant 6000?
If this is the case boot on the smart start cd to begin, then you have many options ...

Stf ;-)
jason_396
Advisor

Re: i recently purchased a ProLiant 6000

smart start CD ? no mine didnt come with one ? can i still set it up ? and if not is there any were i can find the cd ?
jason_396
Advisor

Re: i recently purchased a ProLiant 6000

i tryed downloading the 7.10 smart start cd but it says i have the wrong vers for the server . any ideas guys ?
Dave Martin_1
Occasional Advisor

Re: i recently purchased a ProLiant 6000

Jason,
You will need the smartstart cd 5.5 or earlier. Not sure if HP will still send that out to you or not (i'm sure one of the members of this site could answer).

It is possible to setup this server without a smartstart cd, but it can be challenging and you would need the manuals that were mentioned above.

The manuals mentioned I believe will also specify what types of processors can be installed in the system (if that is what you wanted to upgrade).

You will need to read the manuals, as it is not the same as an installation of a desktop system - it is scsi drive based, which if you are not familiar with, can also be kind of challenging to work with.

It looks like even though this system is end-of-life, that windows server 2003 can be installed on it (though not sure i'd recommend that).

Of all the links recommended above, the best for you would be this one:
http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/DocumentIndex.jsp?contentType=SupportManual&locale=en_US&docIndexId=179911&taskId=101&prodTypeId=15351&prodSeriesId=254916

It contains the maintenance and installation procedures you would need to start off. Keep in mind that this server had it's heyday back in 1999 and 2000, so know that it may be more challenging than newer systems you might find on the market.

jason_396
Advisor

Re: i recently purchased a ProLiant 6000

Thank you so much for the information. I found a smart start cd kit on eBay for 5$. Also I downloaded the system confiq cds from the hp site and now am currently using them to install red hat fadora. I couldnâ t get any of the other options on the system confiq disk to work because they kept asking for a floppy that didnâ t come with them. Iâ ll let you know how the OS install goes. i really hope this thing can be upgraded to at least four 400 MHz cpus . Oh and btw, this unit was purchased for like 20 bucks from a salvage company. So me getting it operational is really just a project/ learning experience. I am gonna hunt for the manuals now , could any one who has had experience repairing or upgrading one of these units give me some p
Dave Martin_1
Occasional Advisor

Re: i recently purchased a ProLiant 6000

the profile diskette (the one it prompts for when installing from the smartstart cd) can be downloaded and extracted from image here:

http://h18007.www1.hp.com/support/files/server/us/download/7453.html

Good luck!
jason_396
Advisor

Re: i recently purchased a ProLiant 6000

hey thankies for the link ! i started the sys confiq disk i downloaded from this site and when it asked for the "system confiq" disk i wouldnt take the one from the link you gave me . i was about to install windows 2ooo Advance server edition from just some MS boot disk . am i missing anything but not having the smartstart cd ? also what advatages would this thing have over say . a normal pc being used as a server ? thanks again btw for the help :)!
Cameron Todd
Regular Advisor

Re: i recently purchased a ProLiant 6000

The SmartStart CD will setup a system partition with all the particular drivers you need for the hardware in this server, so that your OS install will work properly.

I am not familiar with this model but assume it will have multiple harddrives. Most general desktop pc's do not have multiple drives (nor capability for multiple processors) so the possible benefits of a server architecture over a desktop pc would likely include I/O throughput and data integrity (through redundant configuration of the multiple platters). Don't expect to get great graphics or games performance, nor number-crunching with the vintage of machine you have. The hardware should tend to be better built and more reliable that a low-cost SE-Asian-sourced desktop pc assembly.

Don't forget to allocate points to all the responses you get, based on the usefulness of the info. It encourages more knowledgeable people to answer your queries.
jason_396
Advisor

Re: i recently purchased a ProLiant 6000

Thank you, i just did ( give points ) . you guys have been very helpful . i would be pulling hair out without you . so far i have completely installed windows 2000 Advance server edition with support for multi-cpus . its made for servers . so i either stay with this or Linux . the windows 2000 AS edition was purchased by my business , but never used on anything . so far so good . works at least as fast as my 800 MHz duron amd desktop . your right the graphics are bad . on ebay i see past sales for video card upgrades . i also saw a post on this forum not too long ago about disabling the onboard video to add a better video card . in both those instances the people talked about the Pentium 3 xeon models of the proliant 6000 and not the Pentium pro model with quad 200 mhzs like i have . i guess now the only things i need to learn is :


1. are the parts people are selling for the Pentium 3 xeon version able to work on mine .

2. if so find out what parts i will need to buy to install with them ( ie: the new motherboards for the xeon cpus )


the manuals you guys pointed to are great , but i cant seem to find any for this model , all are for the Pentium 2 and up versions of this server . i want to dive in and learn how to take this thing apart and put it back together but i donâ t know if the same manual applies to it since its the first on in the run of this series . any more help would be greatly appreciated guys ! you all are great
Stf
Esteemed Contributor

Re: i recently purchased a ProLiant 6000

For pentium III xeon here is the parts :

122217-001 Intel Pentium III Xeon processor - 500MHz (Tanner, 100MHz front side bus, 512KB Level-2 cache, Slot 2) - Includes heat pipe

122218-001 Intel Pentium III Xeon processor - 500MHz (Tanner, 100MHz front side bus, 1MB Level-2 cache, Slot 2) - Includes heat pipe

122219-001 Intel Pentium III Xeon processor - 500MHz (Tanner, 100MHz front side bus, 2MB Level-2 cache, Slot 2) - Includes heat pipe

Stf ;-)
jason_396
Advisor

Re: i recently purchased a ProLiant 6000

Thanks so much ! what mobo would i need to buy to install those ? also do i need to buy any other parts for this vers ( pentium pro) to work with the new cpus ? i saw some i/o boards on ebay for the xeon ver of this server . should i buy those with the cpus ?
Stf
Esteemed Contributor

Re: i recently purchased a ProLiant 6000

I think this is the mother board that you need for P3 Xeon : 186889-001

Stf ;-)

Re: i recently purchased a ProLiant 6000

Jason,

It's cost prohibitive to upgrade from PP200's to Xeon's. You will have to replace the processor board, memory board, and IO/System board to make the conversion work.

I have the same system (Proliant 6000, Quad PenPro 200. I was able to upgrade to the 1024 KB cache model of the Pen Pro, though, and those processors may be found at a reasonable price on ebay. Cache is where its at.

Ben
jason_396
Advisor

Re: i recently purchased a ProLiant 6000

yes !! thank you ! this is the information i needed !!

please tell me the model parts to buy . cost isnt a issue since this is a project for fun and i got the server almost for free . i am soooo glad you happen to read my post . thank you sir its cool to see you also had the same model as me .
jason_396
Advisor

Re: i recently purchased a ProLiant 6000

so i will need :

cpus

i/o boards and a system board (?)

memory board

please tell me if i missed anything .

Re: i recently purchased a ProLiant 6000

Jason,

From my research, I have found the following. I'm not sure this is an all-inclusive list, but from what I remember, these are the items you will need besides the processors and memory:

see upgrade kit at the following URL:

http://partsurfer.hp.com/cgi-bin/spi/main?sel_flg=partlist&model=312134-B21&modname=PL6000+Xeon+Upgr+Kit+ALL&template=main&plist_sval=ALL&plist_styp=flag&bomlist=Y&strsrch=&keysel=%3F

A sampling of the costs involved.

312256-001 Motherboard with tray and processor cage $616.00
312258-001 System I/O board PCI and EISA $2107.00
312335-001 Standard peripheral board $823.00

As you can see, your money would be better spent on a more modern system. I have seen these kits for sale on ebay from time to time, but remember that the technology is dated at best, with 100mhz memory speed, and slower SCSI standards than current technology.
I upgraded mine to the four Pentium Pro 200 processors with 1Mb cache, 2 gigs of memory, and 38 hard drives attached internally and in external storage units.
I only have a few hundred bucks in mine and primarily use it for file server, which it does fine for my home network.
Decide on a price point you want to stay within for your server, and then look around at some Dell or HP offerings on their websites. You could get a modern server for what you would spend on upgrading this old "Big Iron" machine.

Just my .02 worth,

Ben
Bob Compono
Occasional Advisor

Re: i recently purchased a ProLiant 6000

Jason,

Have you ever found the right manuals for your 6000? I also recently got one with the Pentium Pros and the Xeon manuals are not at all helpful.