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Migrating HP SIM 5.0 to SIM 5.3

 
Pranava
Occasional Advisor

Migrating HP SIM 5.0 to SIM 5.3

Hi

I need to migrate HP SIM 5.0 to HP SIM 5.3 from one server to another server .

SIM 5.0 runs on PA-RISC 11.11 server. This need to be migrated to SIM 5.3 in Itanium 11.23 Server

I need to have same database that we use in HP SIM 5.0

Please help in ths regard
12 REPLIES
David Claypool
Honored Contributor

Re: Migrating HP SIM 5.0 to SIM 5.3

Your goal should be to get to HP SIM 6 (announced but not yet shipping; projected avail EOM Jan-2010).

The danger of letting your system get so out of date is that you can't do a straight upgrade. Recommended steps:

1. In-place (same server) upgrade 5.0-->5.1
2. In-place (same server) upgrade 5.1-->5.3
3. In-place (same server) upgrade 5.3-->6.0
4. Install 6.0 on the other server
5. Utilize the Data Migration Tool (new HP SIM 6.0 feature) to move to other server.
Pranava
Occasional Advisor

Re: Migrating HP SIM 5.0 to SIM 5.3

Hi David,

I would like to have a fresh install of HP SIM 5.3 in Itanium server. Aftter the install I would like to use the same database which we used in PA-RISC

Thanks
Pranav
Maxim Revutskiy
Valued Contributor

Re: Migrating HP SIM 5.0 to SIM 5.3

I recommend to wait HP SIM 6.0 and make clean installation on new server. So you will face much less issues then with migration and several upgrading steps 5.0 -> 5.1 -> 5.3 -> 6.0 (each of one have potential issues and problems)

For easier adding your current hosts you can use ssl certificate from old server, and possibly use old IP (if you using ip restrictions for SNMP, or else).

Then you can export hosts ip addresses from old server, and run discovery for them on new one
Pranava
Occasional Advisor

Re: Migrating HP SIM 5.0 to SIM 5.3

Hi

COuld you please help me in providing HP SIM migration document for HP-UX.

I need to have all the user and server database available even after migration

Please help me in providing the migration document

Regards
pranav
Maxim Revutskiy
Valued Contributor

Re: Migrating HP SIM 5.0 to SIM 5.3

Upgrading instructions for 5.3 http://docs.hp.com/en/418810-005/ch08.html

Upgrading and migrating instructions for 6.0 should be available this month
Pranava
Occasional Advisor

Re: Migrating HP SIM 5.0 to SIM 5.3

Hi

I have planned to do a fresh install in the itanium server and to import the database from PA-RISC server to this new server.

Is this a good idea?

Maxim Revutskiy
Valued Contributor

Re: Migrating HP SIM 5.0 to SIM 5.3

It is one of the possible way (do not forget to copy SSL certificate)

But i think it would be better to upgrade SIM to 6.0 on old server when it comes, make fresh install 6.0 on itanium server. And then use tool that hp announce with SIM 6.0 to migrate data between servers:

"A new tool will enable you to easily transfer your old settings
from an HP SIM 5.3 CMS to an HP SIM 6.0 CMS
from an HP SIM 6.0 CMS to another HP SIM 6.0 CMS"

http://h18000.www1.hp.com/products/servers/management/hpsim/index.html#new
David Claypool
Honored Contributor

Re: Migrating HP SIM 5.0 to SIM 5.3

Part of the upgrade/migration process is updating the database schema for changes. You can't connect HP SIM 5.3 to a database created for HP SIM 5.0.

My original recommendation still holds true for the steps, with the exception of moving through the steps to HP SIM 6 on PA-RISC, and then using the new Data Migration Tool to move the data to a new Itanium server.
Pranava
Occasional Advisor

Re: Migrating HP SIM 5.0 to SIM 5.3

We are in the processof migrating the hardware. As part of that migration SIM also needs to be moved to new server.

Our old server have SIM version 5.0 and the same should be moved to new server.

Upgrading SIM in old server is not possible.

What should I do now , should I use same version in new server or higher version like 5.1 or 5.2?

After ther setup of SIM in new server we can upgrade to version 5.3 or 6.

Please help
Pranava
Occasional Advisor

Re: Migrating HP SIM 5.0 to SIM 5.3

Hi Friends,

I have planned to go for SIM 5.1 in new server.

I have downloaded the software to install in new server. Now how should I proceed to move the data and configuration from old SIM 5.0 to new SIM 5.1 (i.e from old server to new server)

Please help.
David Claypool
Honored Contributor

Re: Migrating HP SIM 5.0 to SIM 5.3

Unfortunately, I have to withdraw my recommendation to use the 6.0 Data Migration Tool since it won't be available for HP-UX until a future version.

However, again if you're going to go through the trouble, your goal should be 6.0 or you'll only delaying the inevitable.

The first thing to consider (particularly if the installation is only HP SIM, not the VSE suite or gWLM, etc) is exactly what is valuable in your current installation that can't be collected again (such as server configuration information) automatically. Trust relationships and WBEM indication subscriptions can easily be done with the new HP SIM instance using Configure or Repair Agents. If you don't have a large number of HP SIM users, it might actually be easier to re-create the users and toolboxes rather than trying to port that to the new server.

Here's the steps I would take, and again, I recommend deploying 6.0 when available.

- Deploy the new HP SIM and do a discovery. Use CRA to establish your trust relationships and subscribe to WBEM indications. Data Collection will gather all of the current configurations of the servers. Best practice would be to continue operate in parallel with both servers until you're comfortable that you have everything operating on the new server.

- If you have created custom tools, you can use the mxtool command to output the XML files that define the custom tools, then copy the XML files to the new system and use mxtool again to import them.

- Any of your custom collections can be handled likewise with the mxcollect command. (If you have any trouble, you can alternatively try the mxquery command)

- When you're ready to shut down the old server, archive off the events data for reference. Since there are limits to the DB size, it's better not to try to move the events into your new server.
Pranava
Occasional Advisor

Re: Migrating HP SIM 5.0 to SIM 5.3

How to backup custom tools using mxtool?
Could you please help inthis regard