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HP UPS management module managing multiple UPSs

 
Xavi.e.r
Frequent Advisor

HP UPS management module managing multiple UPSs

We bought the HP management module for 1 of our UPSs R3000XR. It's working fine however
With the old HP Rack and Power management was possible to manage multiple UPSs (UPS connected via serial to a server with the serial relay agent installed). I can't find a way to management multiple UPSs with this management module? is this possible? what do I need to do?
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gregersenj
HPE Pro

Re: HP UPS management module managing multiple UPSs

I have chekked an old user guide.
Second edition, january 2004.

According that, it should be possible to manage multible UPS' in a mixed enviroment.

You can even run a redundant setup, on "mixed" UPS'. - 1 using the serial card and 1 using the snmp card.
Configuration F, in the old manual.

I haven't used the snmp myself, and it's been like 3 or 4 years since i messed with it.
Check the manual.

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gregersenj
HPE Pro

Re: HP UPS management module managing multiple UPSs

Is this the module?
http://h18004.www1.hp.com/products/servers/proliantstorage/power-protection/software/module/ups/sup_hardware.html

according to the the Q&A, the mangement server has been eliminated.

Still. Look at the user guide:
http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/DocumentIndex.jsp?contentType=SupportManual〈=en&cc=us&docIndexId=64179&taskId=101&prodTypeId=18964&prodSeriesId=3362835#0
Still configuration F. Is a mixed enviroment.

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Xavi.e.r
Frequent Advisor

Re: HP UPS management module managing multiple UPSs

Thanks for your response. That's right, that's the module we have. But we are not configuring a server with redundant UPSs so I don't think none of the configuration would apply. What we are trying to achieve is to manage more than 1 UPS through the management module, in few words ability to see in the management module more than 1 UPS, its statistics configurations etc. See the example figure attached. We'd have 2 UPSs (R3000 XR), 1 with a management module and the other without it, both protecting different servers. None of these servers have redundant UPS connection. We were doing this before with Rack and Power management, but HP retired it that's why we're using now this module. I hope all this helps to understand what we are trying to do.
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gregersenj
HPE Pro

Re: HP UPS management module managing multiple UPSs

I have no experience with the new module.

I just took a qiuck look at the manual, yesterday, before I sent my second answer.

What you are trying to do should be possible.
Try read the manual very carefull.

If you can't find it in the manual, and if nobody, come with the solution here.
Then try to HP support, and ask them to come with the solution.

And I would like to know, not that i need it.

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James Crosland
Frequent Advisor

Re: HP UPS management module managing multiple UPSs

I'm not sure but i don't think this is possible, there are several ports on the modules but i believe they are for many servers to connect to one UPS, not for one UPS to manage serveral other UPS's.

We've recently moved to the mngt modules in our main server room (24 r3000 UPSs) and bought a module for each, we're connecting the agents over the LAN so each server talks to the 2 UPS its load is spread over.

I'm about to post a separate issue with a couple of UPS's not readingt the battery stats properly.
Xavi.e.r
Frequent Advisor

Re: HP UPS management module managing multiple UPSs

I have checked with HP and with HP UPS module you cannot manage multiple UPSs. You need to install a module on each UPS and manage the UPS through that module. I am disappointed with HP on this, since the management for this UPSs is not centralized as it was with the old software HP Rack and Power manager that they retired. bad for companies with several UPSs
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gregersenj
HPE Pro

Re: HP UPS management module managing multiple UPSs

I have just installed some new equipment during the past 2 days, including 2 R1500 G2's, and the new management card.

I would have loved to test it, but time didn't permit it, and the customer isn't using those features.

Have you tried using HP power & Rack manager?

The card it self, manage 1 UPS only, wich make sence. I would expect HPPRM to be able to manage the UPS still.

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gregersenj
HPE Pro

Re: HP UPS management module managing multiple UPSs

I do expect that you need to set the IP information and the SNMP settings.

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gregersenj
HPE Pro

Re: HP UPS management module managing multiple UPSs

Just studiet the manual for HPPM 4.0, and it say 1 management server for each UPS.

That is a step back :/.

Still, you can try the old manager.

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Xavi.e.r
Frequent Advisor

Re: HP UPS management module managing multiple UPSs

The HP UPS management module has embedded on the board software (firmware) for managing the UPS where it's installed on. You can download the agent to install on servers (called HP UPS module protection agent). Note this is NOT the same agent for HP Power Manager (HPPM)or HP Rack and Power Manager which is retired.
In few words each UPS Management Module will only manage 1 UPS, which for me is very disappointing that HP came up with that.
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gregersenj
HPE Pro

Re: HP UPS management module managing multiple UPSs

Agree, it seem to be disapointing.
The enigneers isn't stupid, nor evil. Normally when things are discontinued, they have come up with something better, or nobody is using it. (Hot swap pci was removed, because nobody used it)

They are writing a lot aboute SIM (Systems Insight Manager) integration, so possibly the features from the old HPPM is now handled by SIM.
A lot of things is being moved to SIM.

As a workaround, if you need to run a redundant setup (Superb feature), see if you can get it to work, using the old HPPM

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