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тАО02-20-2002 01:59 PM
тАО02-20-2002 01:59 PM
Solved! Go to Solution.
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тАО02-22-2002 12:53 AM
тАО02-22-2002 12:53 AM
Re: Old OS info
Makes it easier for old-timers like me to remember :-]
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тАО02-22-2002 07:32 AM
тАО02-22-2002 07:32 AM
Re: Old OS info
I know that's not much to go on but it should point out my conundrum. It's not like I need to make the pieces whole and make it work, I'm just curious because it's just slightly before my time and it would be great fun to play with something that was cutting edge when I was...ohhh....about 5 or less.
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тАО02-22-2002 08:14 AM
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Re: Old OS info
maybe the attached article helps.
Patrick
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тАО02-22-2002 08:50 AM
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тАО02-24-2002 12:53 PM
тАО02-24-2002 12:53 PM
Re: Old OS info
Wouldn't that be the Abacus line of servers?
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тАО02-25-2002 06:00 AM
тАО02-25-2002 06:00 AM
Solution>>I know in that range would be the...2116 and the 2000A and possibly the HP 1000 line. I _believe_ but haven't been able to confirm, that the 2116 was the FIRST HP server available but I haven't been able to find any information on a possible OS or any other specs like memory or even how it was measured, ie 4k words, 8k words or what.
The 2116A wasn't the first server HP made, it was the HP 3000 running MPE that predates the 2116A by a little bit (almost 30 years ago). MPE is the commercial operating system while the 2116 (and the Timeshare BASIC machine called the 2000A, and related products like the 2100A followed by the 2112A, 2113A and 2117F) ran a realtime operating system, first called BCS and later rolled into RTE.
Marketing renamed the 2112A as the 21MX, then 2113A as the 21MX-E and 2117F and the 21MX-F. For a while, the 21MX was also known as the 21MX-M. After the 21xx series, the huge processor board (tabloid newspaper size) was redesigned using Large Scale Integration (mid 1980's) to become the L-series HP 1000 and later, the A-series.
The 2116A used 16bit core memory, something that young whippersnappers (technical term) like yourself may never have seen. Look up the details about core memory in an ancient history book of computers. This product line was eventually called the HP 1000 about 1980-1981 and RAM was always measured in 16bit words, so 12K would be 24Kbytes. These are CISC machines with more than 500+ unique instructions and variants and was programmed primarily in Assembler or machine language. With the advent of massive memory (32Kwords), compilers such as FORTRAN were a practical method of writing programs.
It would take the most part of a year to learn how to make one of these museum pieces work as there is nothing in common with PCs or Unix systems. Documentation is not available on the web since most of it was written in languages no longer available to process or convert (circa mid 1970's). The console was a Teletype ASR33 with punched papertape as the primary input and output storage and disks were about 1-5 megs in size.
So unless an oldtimer knows how to get the system up for you (and can point to the pile of manuals on how to boot and run the machine), reports indicate that it makes a excellent boat anchor.
Bill Hassell, sysadmin
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тАО02-25-2002 06:29 AM
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тАО02-25-2002 07:36 AM
тАО02-25-2002 07:36 AM
Re: Old OS info
A young computer specialist who has extensively read the ancient manuscripts of computing, memorizing tidbits of trivia and then repeating in forums like this to pretend to be a wizard...
Definiton: wizard
An old guy...
Bill Hassell, sysadmin
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тАО02-25-2002 08:36 AM
тАО02-25-2002 08:36 AM
Re: Old OS info
Strange thing with the article. I'll try to post it again. This article is from January 1967 and is about the introduction of the 2116A