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senthil_kumar_1
Super Advisor

Can we convert HP physical server to HP VM?

Hi All,

Actually this facility is available in VM ware.

Like that Can we convert HP physical server to HP VM?

If it can, then please explain me step by step.
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Torsten.
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Re: Can we convert HP physical server to HP VM?

I don't think you can migrate VMWare clients to HPVM directly.
But you can install an supported OS on HPVM and transfer the data.

Hope this helps!
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Pete Randall
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Re: Can we convert HP physical server to HP VM?

If I understand what you're asking (i.e. can a particular server run VM) then the answer would depend on what server model we are talking about.


Pete

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senthil_kumar_1
Super Advisor

Re: Can we convert HP physical server to HP VM?

Hi Torsten,

I believe you have misunderstood my question.

What I want is, I would like HP-UX OS running on HP physical server to HP VM.


Is it possible?
Horia Chirculescu
Honored Contributor

Re: Can we convert HP physical server to HP VM?

Hi,

You should read:

http://www.docs.hp.com/en/T2767-90067/index.html

Best regards,
Horia.

Best regards from Romania,
Horia.
Gordon Sjodin
Frequent Advisor

Re: Can we convert HP physical server to HP VM?

It sounds to me like you are looking for a physical to virtual conversion utility for HP-UX. Is this correct?
Steven E. Protter
Exalted Contributor

Re: Can we convert HP physical server to HP VM?

Shalom,

You can convert a physical HP-UX server to HPVM.

If you want to convert an 11.11 host, you need a PA-RISC host to handle that.

Everything else will work fine, IA-64 to IA-64.

Where I think there may be difficulties is trying to use Ignite to take an PA-RISC image to IA-64. I'm not sure that will work, though I won't rule it out.

SEP
Steven E Protter
Owner of ISN Corporation
http://isnamerica.com
http://hpuxconsulting.com
Sponsor: http://hpux.ws
Twitter: http://twitter.com/hpuxlinux
Founder http://newdatacloud.com
Dennis Handly
Acclaimed Contributor

Re: Can we convert HP physical server to HP VM?

>SEP: If you want to convert an 11.11 host, you need a PA-RISC host to handle that.

You can't use HPVM for PA. You can only run the applications using Aries, possibly under HPVM.

>I think there may be difficulties is trying to use Ignite to take an PA-RISC image to IA-64.

It won't work, unless you just want it to copy the data.
Kapil Jha
Honored Contributor

Re: Can we convert HP physical server to HP VM?

You can very well convert the HP physical to VM, its just like moving the machine to second physical/virtual machine.

You can not move PA-RISC as HPVM runs only on integrity.

Install HPVM on new server create a HPVM and install with ignite of the server, after that you can move or present the disks to this new VM-Host and assign to VM and do some LVM stuff and you get your data back on new virtual server.

Hope this would help.
BR,
Kapil+
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senthil_kumar_1
Super Advisor

Re: Can we convert HP physical server to HP VM?

Hi Gordon Sjodin,

Yes you are correct, I am looking for physical to virtual conversion utility for HP-UX.

That is I would like to convert HP-UX OS running on physical server to virtual environment (HPVM) as one virtual machine.

It is like P2V.


I have some questions:

1)I need to know the release details of HPVM and its supporting HP-UX OS version for virtual machine.

2)HPVM4.0 and 4.1 supports only HP-UX 11iv2 and HP-UX 11iv3 to be installed on virtual machine, am i correct?

3)We can not install HP-UX 10.20, 11.00 and 11.11 install on any one the of versions of HPVM, am i correct?

4)Can we do P2V on HPVM?

5)Can we convert physical server running HP-UX 11iv2 and HP-UX 11iv3 to HPVM as virtual machine?


6)Can we convert physical server running HP-UX 10.20, 11.00 and 11.11 to HPVM as virtual machine?



Kapil Jha
Honored Contributor
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Re: Can we convert HP physical server to HP VM?

1)I need to know the release details of HPVM and its supporting HP-UX OS version for virtual machine.
>>> https://h20392.www2.hp.com/portal/swdepot/displayProductInfo.do?productNumber=integrity_vm41

2)HPVM4.0 and 4.1 supports only HP-UX 11iv2 and HP-UX 11iv3 to be installed on virtual machine, am i correct?
>>> YES

3)We can not install HP-UX 10.20, 11.00 and 11.11 install on any one the of versions of HPVM, am i correct?
>>>YES

4)Can we do P2V on HPVM?
>>>YES as discussed in above replies

5)Can we convert physical server running HP-UX 11iv2 and HP-UX 11iv3 to HPVM as virtual machine?
>>> if its integrity yes we can.


6)Can we convert physical server running HP-UX 10.20, 11.00 and 11.11 to HPVM as virtual machine?
>>>if its integrity yes we can.


CRUX is you can move IA64 HPUX as VM from physical.

BR,
Kapil+
I am in this small bowl, I wane see the real world......
senthil_kumar_1
Super Advisor

Re: Can we convert HP physical server to HP VM?

Hi Kapil Jh,

Still I need more clarification.

You have answered yes to my questions:

2)HPVM4.0 and 4.1 supports only HP-UX 11iv2 and HP-UX 11iv3 to be installed on virtual machine, am i correct?
>>> YES


3)We can not install HP-UX 10.20, 11.00 and 11.11 install on any one the of versions of HPVM, am i correct?
>>>YES

My questions:

1)If above statements are ture,How can we move HP-UX 10.20, 11.00 and 11.11 running on HP integrity physical server to VM of integrity server, I believe you it can't, but you are telling that if HP-UX 10.20, 11.00 and 11.11 running on Intergrity server then we can mount, but normally HP-UX 10.20, 11.00 and 11.11 can not be installed on Integrity server?

What is ture?

2)We can move HP-UX 11iv2 and 11iv3 running on Integrity server to VM, since the HPVM 4.1 is supporting HP-UX 11iv2 and 11iv3, but we can not move HP-UX 1020, 11.00, 11.11 to VM, am i correct?


3)Actually we can not install HP-UX 10.20, 11.00 and 11.11 on Integrity server, we can install only HP-UX 11iv2 and 11iv3 on Integrity server, am i correct?

4)Is it possible real P2V, want to move whole IA64 HP-XU OS to VM, what is the procedure to do this, pls explain me in detail.?

Rita C Workman
Honored Contributor

Re: Can we convert HP physical server to HP VM?

HPVM is a software 'utility' or software product that gets installed and runs on an HPUX server IA64. You can run it on 11.23IA and 11.31IA.
The newer versions of HPVM software require 11.31IA.

So, yes you can load this software and use it to create "virtual servers" provided the hardware you load it on is compatible and has enough hardware to make it worth your while.

The software is loaded on the HPUX server and that server becomes known as the HOST server.

At no time does that HPUX server become a virtual machine itself!!

It, the HPUX server, creates virtual machine CLIENTS and the HPUX HOST serves up and manages that hardware (CPU,Memory,disk, etc) to the virtual machine CLIENT(S) running on it.

So make sure the HPUX server you are looking at using has plenty of physical resources to share to the VM Clients.

Rita
johnsonpk
Honored Contributor

Re: Can we convert HP physical server to HP VM?

>>>3)We can not install HP-UX 10.20, 11.00 and 11.11 install on any one the of versions of HPVM, am i correct?
>>>YES

Kapil replied that you are correct in saying the truth ..hp-ux 10.20/11.00/11.11 can not be installed on VM
1)If above statements are ture,How can we move HP-UX 10.20, 11.00 and 11.11 running on HP integrity physical server to VM of integrity server, I believe you it can't, but you are telling that if HP-UX 10.20, 11.00 and 11.11 running on Intergrity server then we can mount, but normally HP-UX 10.20, 11.00 and 11.11 can not be installed on Integrity server?

What is ture?

>>>1)If above statements are ture,How can we move HP-UX 10.20, 11.00 and 11.11 running on HP integrity physical server to VM of integrity server, I believe you it can't, but you are telling that if HP-UX 10.20, 11.00 and 11.11 running on Intergrity server then we can mount, but normally HP-UX 10.20, 11.00 and 11.11 can not be installed on Integrity server?

What is ture?

NOT POssible

>>>3)Actually we can not install HP-UX 10.20, 11.00 and 11.11 on Integrity server, we can install only HP-UX 11iv2 and 11iv3 on Integrity server, am i correct?


yes ..you are correct ..


>>>4)Is it possible real P2V, want to move whole IA64 HP-XU OS to VM, what is the procedure to do this, pls explain me in detail.?
1)take ignite backup
#Make_net_recovery
2)restore it on to VM
Steven E. Protter
Exalted Contributor

Re: Can we convert HP physical server to HP VM?

Shalom,

1)If above statements are ture,How can we move HP-UX 10.20, 11.00 and 11.11 running on HP integrity physical server to VM of integrity server, I believe you it can't, but you are telling that if HP-UX 10.20, 11.00 and 11.11 running on Intergrity server then we can mount, but normally HP-UX 10.20, 11.00 and 11.11 can not be installed on Integrity server?

You have to migrate the services and applications to equivalent, upgraded versions that run on 11.31 IA. Oracle for example has a data migration path for this.


2)We can move HP-UX 11iv2 and 11iv3 running on Integrity server to VM, since the HPVM 4.1 is supporting HP-UX 11iv2 and 11iv3, but we can not move HP-UX 1020, 11.00, 11.11 to VM, am i correct?


You can not run unsupported OS on HPVM. 11.11 is PA-RISC only and you must migrate applications from this OS. There probably are IA versions you can migrate too.


3)Actually we can not install HP-UX 10.20, 11.00 and 11.11 on Integrity server, we can install only HP-UX 11iv2 and 11iv3 on Integrity server, am i correct?

You are correct.

SEP

4)Is it possible real P2V, want to move whole IA64 HP-XU OS to VM, what is the procedure to do this, pls explain me in detail.?
Steven E Protter
Owner of ISN Corporation
http://isnamerica.com
http://hpuxconsulting.com
Sponsor: http://hpux.ws
Twitter: http://twitter.com/hpuxlinux
Founder http://newdatacloud.com
Kapil Jha
Honored Contributor

Re: Can we convert HP physical server to HP VM?

OOOOOOOps lots of if and but,

well crux is, hpvm runs only on integrity so the things which can be installed on HPVM should be compatible with integrity(which rejects the possibility to install 10.X and 11.11).

[ I might have missed the term you wrote :( ]

anyways you can always upgrade ur old, rusty OS to new one as VM and as suggested above, you can migrate the applications on new VM (aries is ur friend here.

BR,
Kapil+

I am in this small bowl, I wane see the real world......
Kranti Mahmud
Honored Contributor

Re: Can we convert HP physical server to HP VM?

Hi Senthil,

You can check these docs:

http://docs.hp.com/en/T2767-90067/T2767-90067.pdf

http://docs.hp.com/en/T2767-90067/index.html

Rgds-Kranti
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senthil_kumar_1
Super Advisor

Re: Can we convert HP physical server to HP VM?

Hi Kapil Jha,

I have checked in one of VMs for aries software.

I am able to find following software.

#swlist -l product | grep -i aries
PHCO_36447 1.0 aries(5) man page patch
PHCO_36448 1.0 Japanese aries(5) man page patch
PHSS_37553 1.0 Aries cumulative patch


Are the software enough to run the applications by aries.
Dennis Handly
Acclaimed Contributor

Re: Can we convert HP physical server to HP VM?

>Are the software enough to run the applications by aries?

It should be.
You'll need to get the application and all shlibs used by that application to your new system.