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Is it okay to use a putty-based text mud client for system administration?

Mr. Lewis Lampkin, III
Frequent Advisor

Is it okay to use a putty-based text mud client for system administration?

I have to work on an HP-UX system.

I know VERY LITTLE about HP-UX.

We won't be using the HP-UX much longer.

I have a desire to automate some routine administrative tasks, such as user creation, user deletion, and user password modification.

Unfortunately, I lack the expertise in HP-UX, Perl, or Expect (which I still can't get running, and just gave up on, to tell the truth) ... to do this.

I was thinking that I do know how to use aliases, actions, and variables using text-based mud clients, and why not just apply those many hours of using that into a productive purpose of system administration?

At least I know how to use that tool.

In this example, the tool would be tintin++

Looking for feedback.

Thanks!
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OldSchool
Honored Contributor

Re: Is it okay to use a putty-based text mud client for system administration?

knowing nothing of tintin++ or mud for that matter.

I guess my question would be, what is it about those tasks that you intend / need to automate?

It would seem to me that you need to know at least the underlying commands to do the automation.

Depending on the HPUX version, there is a "text based" version of SAM that does this stuff also, newer release use SMH (System Management Homepage).

Of the tasks mentioned, I don't see much that needs automation, even using the command line....you're take could be different.
Mr. Lewis Lampkin, III
Frequent Advisor

Re: Is it okay to use a putty-based text mud client for system administration?

Are you sure that you're "oldschool".

By mud, I mean a multi-user dungeon, text-based game played across the internet. (Imagine Everquest in text-only format.)

Anyway, clients were developed for these text-based games, that could do command substitutions, could respond based on output from the server, and allowed you to substitute variables and create variables on the fly, that could feed into other operations.

I was just wanting to leverage that for systems admin, as I knew how to use that tool, was more inquisitive on the ethics around it.

Analogy: I guess a basketball to me is a toy, but to someone in the NBA, it is a job, so maybe I'm too much of a stiff shirt.
Mr. Lewis Lampkin, III
Frequent Advisor

Re: Is it okay to use a putty-based text mud client for system administration?

Sorry, I didn't address what you said, "knowing the underlying comands"

Yes, I know the underlying commands .... for creating users, modifying users, or removing users. In my experience, the underlying commands are the exact same, 99% of the time, with only slight variables in whatever username and/or password are being addressed at that time.

I figured that accounting for that, I could automate the processes, and thus I could get the user accounts made/modified/removed with less effort from me, and potentially, I could delegate these processes to a lower level.





OldSchool
Honored Contributor

Re: Is it okay to use a putty-based text mud client for system administration?

"I was just wanting to leverage that for systems admin, as I knew how to use that tool, was more inquisitive on the ethics around it."

leverage away...at least assuming the putty connection is ssh, which is normal for it.

as to delegating, there are still the permissions issues..either root account needs to run them, or the user needs to be able to elevate priviledges (as in sudo).