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тАО03-23-2011 03:00 AM
тАО03-23-2011 03:00 AM
Oracle has announced that they will stop development for itanium:
http://www.oracle.com/us/corporate/press/346696
So anyone knows the HP's strategy?
Any porting plan for hp-ux?
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тАО03-23-2011 05:52 AM
тАО03-23-2011 05:52 AM
Re: Oracle stop development on itanium
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тАО03-23-2011 07:04 AM
тАО03-23-2011 07:04 AM
Re: Oracle stop development on itanium
On the other hand, if you look at the picture financially, Integrity servers are not selling like hotcakes. And as far as the currently manufactured hardware goes, HPUX runs only on Integrity. So, Oracle, has no incentive to develop their software for a customer base which is already shrinking.
I am waiting for the end-of-life announcement for HP-UX any day now. There hasn't been much innovation on the OS side since 11.11 other than some superfluous additions that I can live without or some hardware dependent changes to accommodate ia64 architecture. The way the things are going, our beloved HP-UX will not be around much longer either, which reinforces Oracle's decision, not to develop for Integrity.
Is anyone really surprised ? I personally am not...
UNIX because I majored in cryptology...
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тАО03-23-2011 09:02 AM
тАО03-23-2011 09:02 AM
Re: Oracle stop development on itanium
So the 3 Bllion$ Intel "play" -- after all is said and done - could still be break even for HP.
So what remains on Itanium - VMS, Tandem/Himalaya. I am pretty sure though even the i2 Itanic systems will be around for the next 4 to 8 years.
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тАО03-23-2011 09:46 AM
тАО03-23-2011 09:46 AM
Re: Oracle stop development on itanium
Oracle is doing this in hopes of driving business to SPARC and Oracle Linux.
The current xeon offering from Intel have more and more Itanium 2 features.
I believe it would be technically possible for HP to make the move, though they clearly do not want to.
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тАО03-23-2011 10:48 AM
тАО03-23-2011 10:48 AM
Re: Oracle stop development on itanium
It will be very important for further strategy (without oracle support > No Itanium Server > No HP-UX)
I thing many customers will stop or wait their order?!
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тАО03-23-2011 10:56 AM
тАО03-23-2011 10:56 AM
Re: Oracle stop development on itanium
Anyway, the situation with hp-ux and Itanium became very interesting now. I've already prepared a popcorn bundle :)
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тАО03-23-2011 10:56 AM
тАО03-23-2011 10:56 AM
Re: Oracle stop development on itanium
the In the early 1990's Gartner et al. declared VMS "gone within 5 years".
And (consequently?) DEC/Compaq/HP did their best to make that prophesy self-fullfilling.
Anyone recall ANY VMS marketing since then?
After the "Alphacide" of 2001 Engineering made a MAGNIFICENT effort to port to the (then) Merced, and they got it going. Within hardly 5 years AFTER killing off Alpha, some (now named) Itanium systems reached the point where they matched __5 YEARS OLDER__ Alpha systems.
... and VMS is still amongst us.
If past results have any predictive power, AND HPUX client base is as resilient as that of VMS,
then it may be a bit early for dispair.
But I fully agree, it IS a bad sign.
By the way, does anybody have any info about Rdb/DBMS/(native)Oracle on OpenVMS-on-Itanium?
To steal a C.O.V.signature:
"I am not a pessimist, I am a realist".
Proost.
Have one on me.
jpe
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тАО03-23-2011 11:04 AM
тАО03-23-2011 11:04 AM
Re: Oracle stop development on itanium
But Intel answers today:
http://newsroom.intel.com/community/intel_newsroom/blog/2011/03/23/chip-shot-intel-reaffirms-commitment-to-itanium
see also
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-03-23/hp-calls-oracle-s-itanium-move-a-shameless-gambit-to-hamper-competition.html
IMHO "Itanium" in this case means HP-UX only.
There are many comments on the web about the HP-Oracle relationship, for example:
http://www.technewsworld.com/story/Oracles-Masterful-Political-Obfuscation-Strategy-Against-HP-71140.html
Hope this helps!
Regards
Torsten.
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