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Re: Oracle stop development on itanium

Oracle deployments on HP-UX are pretty substantial. Oracle should still be comitted their existing Itanium deployments until kingdom come. That will likely be 4 to 8 years or more down the line until the next tech refresh.

This will simply mean customers will no longer be able to have Oracle's latest and greatest, will be forced to sign up for platinum support contracts and will think twice about their next tech cycle refresh.

HP-UX and RISC/Itanic Sales our of Enterprise Systems is likely no more than 8 persent of total systems sales -- so this should not be a big deal IHO for HP.

Besides - there are other non-Oracle DB, ERP and Enterprise software available for HP-UX Itanium.

My Crystal Ball However Says:

- HP will acquire AMD and beef up Bulldozer and successors
- HP will explore a port of HP-UX to X86-64

HP can't survive as one of the big 3 without its own flagship chip that it designs and builds.


Hakuna Matata.
Honored Contributor

Re: Oracle stop development on itanium

First there was Micsosoft annoucing end of support for Itanium for Windows Server.

Then Redhat, RHEL 6.0 is NOT supported on Itanium systems.

And finally, Oracle software...

So what does INTEL expect to run on the Itanium? Will HP-UX have the necessary ISV support in the long haul since ORACLE is practically the mega-stack end to end from DB, mid-tier to web tier...
Hakuna Matata.
Valued Contributor

Re: Oracle stop development on itanium

Isn't this, in short and in essence, Mark Hurd extending a single finger (and *not* E.T.'s index finger) in HP's general direction?
There's no place like 127.0.0.1

HP-Server-Literate since 1979
Honored Contributor

Re: Oracle stop development on itanium

LOL!

Exactly.
Hakuna Matata.
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Re: Oracle stop development on itanium

Lets be blunt here.

Oracle is attempting to bring the Proprietary Unix DB onto their own SPARC hardware platform, which they have pretty much killed with their typical customer service.

Intel and HP can talk until they are blue in the face about commitment to the Itanium Platform. It doesn't matter. Many, many large businesses run Oracle on HP-UX because of RAS

Reliability
Availability
Scalability

It scales so well in fact Oracle refused to let HP publish the latest Oracle Benchmark tests because it made their own hardware look bad.

There are anti trust implications to this decision, it could be viewed as an effort to suppress competition.

Lets say HP ports HP-UX to x86 hardware. Does that mean Oracle will provide a database that will run on the platform? Probably not because Oracle ignored the customer wishes in a hardball attempt to get back market share that they have lost.

HP could respond with a counter option. mysql is Enterpise grade, runs very well on HP-UX. What if they went into the software business and offered their customers a roadmap.

State of the art hardware plus a database platform that has much lower cost of ownership than Oracle. Oracle may own the mysql product but its open source and HP could release its own version in about give minutes.

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Re: Oracle stop development on itanium

Yeah,

>>>
It scales so well in fact Oracle refused to let HP publish the latest Oracle Benchmark tests because it made their own hardware look bad.
<<<

What is new here...

For years, Rdb on VMS on Alpha beat Oracle's ANY *NIX bechmarks by 30 - 60 %, but never got published.
Look it up:
Oracle on xx hardwre on yy-Nix had new record zz.
Next month: Oracle holds record of zz+ 30-60 %. No details. THOSE were Rdb (owned by, but not originally from Oracle) on Alpha VMS clusters.

Like I said before: deja vu.

Sad story really.

Proost.

Have one on me.

jpe
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Frequent Advisor

Re: Oracle stop development on itanium

Here is HP first answer.

http://www.hp.com/hpinfo/newsroom/press/2011/110323c.html?mtxs=rss-corp-news

I can't do anything with Itanium (Hp-UX) without support from Oracle.
Oracle Support from HP is not the same :-(

But what shall HP say else
Honored Contributor

Re: Oracle stop development on itanium

To spice up Oracle's hardware, new strategy. HP has to come up with some solution. But real benefit in this cold war, could go IBM's hardware and AIX.
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Shibin
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Re: Oracle stop development on itanium

Or what about Informix? Oracle is not the only DB product out there folks. Of course that means you're jumping into bed with IBM, but, at least so far I haven't heard any rumors about lack of IBM/Informix development/support for Itanium.


Pete

Pete
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Re: Oracle stop development on itanium

And the following day, Oracle announces a new TPC-H world record on Sparc Enterprise M9000 server.
So itanium is about to go.
follow the lead and purchase a brand new M9000 !

http://www.oracle.com/us/corporate/press/346700

my 2 cents !

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Jean-Luc
fiat lux