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PA-RISC & Itanium and 11.23

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Charles McCary
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PA-RISC & Itanium and 11.23

Hi - my company has several rp7420's and I have a couple of questions regarding OS and architecture EOL.


Currently we are running HP-UX 11.11 on PA-RISC (9000/800/rp7420)


We have some app requirements to move to 11.23.

It's my understanding that 11.23 is supported on PA-RISC, however PA-RISC architecture is EOSL in 2013?

To cover these boxes long-term would I need to upgrade to itanium?

appreciate input and advice.


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James R. Ferguson
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Re: PA-RISC & Itanium and 11.23

Hi Charles:

> It's my understanding that 11.23 is supported on PA-RISC, however PA-RISC architecture is EOSL in 2013?

The rp7420 will be supported at least until May 2012 or December 2013 depending on the exact model.

As for 11.23, factory support will continue until December 2013 although you will not be able to purchase the release after December 2010.

> To cover these boxes long-term would I need to upgrade to itanium?

HP-UX 11.23 or 11.31 is required for Itanium servers. Both releases are available for PA-RISC. You probably should begin planning your upgrade path now. You cannot step from 11.11 directly to 11.31 regardless of the hardware platform.

PA-RISC servers are no longer manufactured so the eventual answer is "yes" to upgrade these boxes you will need to move to Itanium.

The official roadmap lies here:

http://h20338.www2.hp.com/hpux11i/downloads/public_hp-ux_systems_support.pdf

Regards!

...JRF...
Charles McCary
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Re: PA-RISC & Itanium and 11.23

Sorry, I think I meant 11.31 everywhere I put 11.23. We have an eventual application requirement to be at 11.31.

I don't think it changes my question or James' answer though.
Torsten.
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Re: PA-RISC & Itanium and 11.23

End of support for 11.23 is dec 2013, for 11.31 it is 2017.

The EOSL for rp7420 is still TBD.

(according to public_hp-ux_systems_support.pdf)

Hope this helps!
Regards
Torsten.

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Wim Rombauts
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Re: PA-RISC & Itanium and 11.23

Maybe it is even a very good idea to switch to 11.31 on itanium systems.

Just compare the performance of your rp7420 with a the brand new quad-core systems. I believe a 2-socket system could match the performance of your current rp7420.
I believe the cost of a new system, including 3 years of hardware support, matches the cost of hardware maintenance of your rp7420. HP-UX licensing will drop significantly, maybe your software licensing to if it is CPU-based.

And, once the migration is complete, you are covered for long-term.
Charles McCary
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Re: PA-RISC & Itanium and 11.23

Torsten, EOSL for my rp7420 running 8800 chip is 05/2012.

Wim, arae there any good sites to do this comparison between servers?

Steven E. Protter
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Re: PA-RISC & Itanium and 11.23

Shalom,

PA-RISC has not been sold for 18 months.

One of my former clients recently moved from PA-RISC to IA-64/Itanium, and nightly batch processing sped up by a lot. Processing time dropped from 40 minutes to 8 minutes on average.

Your mileage may vary. It will depend on the applications you use and the quality of the code and design of those applications.

One thing is clear, due to HP pulling the plug PA-RISC is dead, and IA-64/Itanium on 11.31 is the way to go for servers running HP-UX.

You will need to check with your application vendors for platform/OS support. Many PA-RISC applications will run well in emulation mode (called ARIES).

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