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Re: Xwin performance of 5.1B-4 vs. 4.0F

 
Bengt Nilsson_2
Regular Advisor

Re: Xwin performance of 5.1B-4 vs. 4.0F

The 5.1B-4 PWS500au machine:
(mc2-p009)/ ifconfig -a
lo0: flags=100c89
inet 127.0.0.1 netmask ff000000 ipmtu 4096

sl0: flags=10

tu0: flags=c63
inet 129.16.138.202 netmask ffff0000 broadcast 129.16.255.255 ipmtu 1500

tu1: flags=c63
inet 192.168.27.1 netmask ffffff00 broadcast 192.168.27.255 ipmtu 1500

The 4.0F PWS500au 'clone':
ifconfig -a
tu0: flags=c63
inet 129.16.138.198 netmask ffff0000 broadcast 129.16.255.255 ipmtu 1500

tu1: flags=c63
inet 192.168.27.1 netmask ffffff00 broadcast 192.168.27.255 ipmtu 1500

sl0: flags=10

lo0: flags=100c89
inet 127.0.0.1 netmask ff000000 ipmtu 4096

The 'remote display' workstation, a DS10:
ifconfig -a
tu0: flags=c63
inet 129.16.138.199 netmask ffff0000 broadcast 129.16.255.255 ipmtu 1500

tu1: flags=c63

sl0: flags=10

lo0: flags=100c89
inet 127.0.0.1 netmask ff000000 ipmtu 4096


BN
Pieter 't Hart
Honored Contributor

Re: Xwin performance of 5.1B-4 vs. 4.0F

thanks for quick respons
but see no clue there.

please post output from "netstat -rn" and "grep hosts /etc/nsswitch.conf" on these systems
Bengt Nilsson_2
Regular Advisor

Re: Xwin performance of 5.1B-4 vs. 4.0F

netstat -rn on the three systems:

PWS500au system with 5.2B-4
Routing tables
Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Interface

Route Tree for Protocol Family 2:
default 129.16.1.4 UGS 1 29656 tu0
127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 UHL 4 107346 lo0
129.16/16 129.16.138.202 U 5 695751 tu0
129.16.138.202 129.16.138.202 UHL 1 896452 tu0
192.168.27/24 192.168.27.1 U 12 3103365 tu1
192.168.27.1 192.168.27.1 UHL 0 0 tu1


PWS500au system with 4.0F
Routing tables
Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Interface
Netmasks:
Inet 0.0.0.0
Inet 255.255.0.0
Inet 255.255.255.0

Route Tree for Protocol Family 2:
default 129.16.1.4 UGS 0 0 tu0
127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 UH 7 1380331 lo0
129.16/16 129.16.138.198 U 2 62575 tu0
192.168.27/24 192.168.27.1 U 9 571789 tu1


DS10 system with X-display
Routing tables
Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Interface
Netmasks:
Inet 0.0.0.0
Inet 255.255.0.0

Route Tree for Protocol Family 2:
default 129.16.1.4 UGS 0 58077 tu0
127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 UH 7 1089921 lo0
129.16/16 129.16.138.199 U 62 6084660 tu0

BN
Rob Leadbeater
Honored Contributor

Re: Xwin performance of 5.1B-4 vs. 4.0F

Hi,

I think this output suggests a speed/duplex mismatch, as has previously been suggested, especially if everything is connected to the same switch.

20:
name = tu0
media_speed = 100
full_duplex = 1
48:
name = tu1
media_speed = 100
full_duplex = 0
#

What sort of switch are you connected to, and what are its speed/duplex settings ?

If it's an unmanaged switch, then you'll probably be best setting the NICs to auto-negotiate... If it's a managed switch, then the switch end MUST match the NIC... The output of netstat -i might indicate errors to confirm this.

Cheers,

Rob
Bengt Nilsson_2
Regular Advisor

Re: Xwin performance of 5.1B-4 vs. 4.0F

tu0 is set to auto-negotiate and it is connected to a HP2424 switch.
tu1 is set to 100Mb fixed half-duplex and is connected to a small hub which distributes the communication to three VXI sub-computers. This setting is prescribed by the equipment vendor.

Same setup vas used on the 4.0F machine.

The reason for this discussion is that we acquired the equipment with the 4.0F system about ten years ago, and we recently got the vendor support for an upgrade to 5.1B-4.
The transition went fine, except for the Xwin performance issue. There are a few other installations of this kind of equipment, and I know at least one where the upgrade to 5.1B-4 also caused noticeable degradation in Xwin performance.
We also have two DS10's which are NOT connected to any hardware and where we have the same software installed and when we do the same primitive test we see the same thing. Opening the one of the simplest applications in the vendor suite takes one second or less for the DS10 with 4.0F, and about 3 seconds for the DS10 with 5.1B.
Having said that, it should be mentioned that the test is performed using one of the the vendor's software products which probably is written for 4.0F. Could it be that the programming different for 4.0F and 5.1B to get the best performance?
However, "xterm" is coming up instantly from 4.0F, and maybe after 0.5-1 seconds from 5.1B, so I doubt this idea.

BN

Pieter 't Hart
Honored Contributor

Re: Xwin performance of 5.1B-4 vs. 4.0F

I'm curious about the two lines on the PWS500au with 5.1b
129.16/16 129.16.138.202 U 5 695751 tu0
129.16.138.202 129.16.138.202 UHL 1 896452 tu0
192.168.27/24 192.168.27.1 U 12 3103365 tu1
192.168.27.1 192.168.27.1 UHL 0 0 tu1

where the 40.f system has one per interface
PWS500au system with 4.0F
129.16/16 129.16.138.198 U 2 62575 tu0
192.168.27/24 192.168.27.1 U 9 571789 tu1

do you have IPv6 enabled on the PWS500au with 5.1b?
Bengt Nilsson_2
Regular Advisor

Re: Xwin performance of 5.1B-4 vs. 4.0F

Interesting question.
How do I check that?


Bengt Nilsson_2
Regular Advisor

Re: Xwin performance of 5.1B-4 vs. 4.0F

I was doing "ip6_setup", answering "no" on all important questions, and I got the following:

"IPV6 option is not configured in the kernel.
Can not configure IPv6 interfaces and routes."

Is then the ipv6 issue out of the discussion?

BN

Pieter 't Hart
Honored Contributor

Re: Xwin performance of 5.1B-4 vs. 4.0F

I guess so.
I'm not familiar with ipv6 but found some reference for the flags to ipv6.

have you tried "grep hosts /etc/nsswitch.conf" ?
this parameter determines the order of nameresolution (hostfile, dns ...).

and if present can you post the entries in the host files for these nodes?
Bengt Nilsson_2
Regular Advisor

Re: Xwin performance of 5.1B-4 vs. 4.0F

I am not sure I understand, but here is the response.

PWS500au 5.1B-4:
grep hosts /etc/nsswitch.conf
# hosts: files dns nis
# hosts
hosts: files dns nis

DS10 5.1B-4
grep hosts /etc/nsswitch.conf
# hosts: files dns nis
# hosts
hosts: files dns

The 4.0F systems does not have this file.