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DLT7000(TH6BE) unseen by ioscan

Jeff Woods_2
Occasional Visitor

DLT7000(TH6BE) unseen by ioscan

DLT 7000 (Quantum model TH6BE; wideSCSI-SE) is correctly identified by ODE/MAPPER2 at 0/0/2/0.3.0 on extscsib interface but is *NOT* listed by "ioscan -f" (nor any of the several other incantations I've tried so far). The drive is attached via a 68(wide)-to-50(narrow) pin cable (with termination for the wide lines) to a (narrow) DVD-ROM (0/0/2/0.1.0) which is connected to the (narrow) external port on the rp2470 running HP-UX(11.11).

How do I get the drive to show up?

P.S. I've probably left off some critical information; don't hesitate to let me know what else I need to provide to figure this out.

Thanks!
Japanese proverb: "Fall seven times; stand up eight."
13 REPLIES
Paula J Frazer-Campbell
Honored Contributor

Re: DLT7000(TH6BE) unseen by ioscan

Hi

Ideas

scsi address conflict.

reboot interupt boot and interact with isl the "sea" - does it show there.

Paula
If you can spell SysAdmin then you is one - anon
Paula J Frazer-Campbell
Honored Contributor

Re: DLT7000(TH6BE) unseen by ioscan

Hi

This may help:-

http://forums1.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/questionanswer.do?threadId=264087


Paula
If you can spell SysAdmin then you is one - anon
Paula J Frazer-Campbell
Honored Contributor

Re: DLT7000(TH6BE) unseen by ioscan

Jeff Woods_2
Occasional Visitor

Re: DLT7000(TH6BE) unseen by ioscan

Thanks for the ideas, Paula. :)

>scsi address conflict.

There are only three devices on this SCSI bus:
0/0/2/0.3.0 DLT7000
0/0/2/0.1.0 DVD
0/0/2/0.7.0 controller/HBA

>reboot interupt boot and interact with isl >the "sea" - does it show there.

No, neither SEARCH DISPLAY nor SEARCH IPL nor simply SEARCH (which I suspect is the same as SEARCH DISPLAY) see it (even with a make_tape_recovery tape loaded). I've tried booting manually from the path where the DLT should appear while the Ignite tape is loaded and that fails too.

> threadId=264087

There are some good ideas in there (I have already posted to that thread and continue to monitor it) but that problem is that his DLT drive is differential and won't work on SE SCSI. None of the ideas there thus far have solved my problem.

> threadId=147123
> threadId=75413

Those two short threads are also problems where the DLT drive is differential.

In my case, the DLT7000 drive is not differential according to the "E" in the model number. (It would be "F" if differential.) The SCSI connectors on the back of the drive are labeled "SCSI-SE". Also, I've tested the drive, cable and terminator with Quantum's DLTsage diagnostic software on an Adaptec 2940 (narrow SCSI-SE) card in a Windows PC where it works.
Japanese proverb: "Fall seven times; stand up eight."
Paula J Frazer-Campbell
Honored Contributor

Re: DLT7000(TH6BE) unseen by ioscan

Jeff

Try this attached pdf file:-

Paula
If you can spell SysAdmin then you is one - anon
Jim Butler
Valued Contributor

Re: DLT7000(TH6BE) unseen by ioscan

Does the DLT have a scsi selector on it?

The 68 - 50 pin cable - are you sure it is correctly pinned, and does not need a converter?

The sea should see everything in the scsi chain.


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Try this -
Go into sam's device manager, and see if you can add the device (It probably needs to be in the device portion of the kernel), then,
run
insf -e
to create the device files.

Good luck
Man The Bilge Pumps!
Paula J Frazer-Campbell
Honored Contributor

Re: DLT7000(TH6BE) unseen by ioscan

Jeff

Sorry not thr right file :-(


Paula
If you can spell SysAdmin then you is one - anon
Paula J Frazer-Campbell
Honored Contributor

Re: DLT7000(TH6BE) unseen by ioscan

Jeff

http://www.quantum.com/am/support/DLTtapeDrivesMedia/jumper_settings/jmprs_dlt7000.htm


Paula
If you can spell SysAdmin then you is one - anon
Andrew Rutter
Honored Contributor

Re: DLT7000(TH6BE) unseen by ioscan

hi, dont think DLT drives are supported boot devices and are never seen at PDC level, after reboot interupted. Doing a search never finds them. It will however find other sequential drives like DAT.
Are you sure Ioscan doesnt show it?

Try doing an just #ioscan and see if its listed as unknown. other variantes of ioscan including "#ioscan -funC tape" will not find it if it is unclaimed.
You will probably find it as unclaimed and will need to install the STAPE driver into the kernal. Especially if no other tape drives have been used on this system.

If you post the ioscan here we can have a look at it for you. There is patches for the DLT7000's aswell you can download if needed.


Andy
Paula J Frazer-Campbell
Honored Contributor

Re: DLT7000(TH6BE) unseen by ioscan

Jeff

Full 7000 manual.
http://www.quantum.com/NR/rdonlyres/A339F14F-873F-4F5A-BEEC-396D93529A4D/0/dlt7000productmanual.pdf

Although I guess you have got this.

I'm still looking.

Paula
If you can spell SysAdmin then you is one - anon
Paula J Frazer-Campbell
Honored Contributor

Re: DLT7000(TH6BE) unseen by ioscan

Jeff your:-


There are only three devices on this SCSI bus:
0/0/2/0.3.0 DLT7000
0/0/2/0.1.0 DVD
0/0/2/0.7.0 controller/HBA


Gave me an idea try setting the DLT to 8 or above.

Paula
If you can spell SysAdmin then you is one - anon
Volker Borowski
Honored Contributor

Re: DLT7000(TH6BE) unseen by ioscan

Hi,

what happens, if you dump the DVD and hook up the DLT directly ? Just to eliminate the cable ?
Should be no prob since the DVD is external.

Volker
Jeff Woods_2
Occasional Visitor

Re: DLT7000(TH6BE) unseen by ioscan

Jim Butler:
>Does the DLT have a scsi selector on it?

If you mean a selector to set the SCSI address, then yes; it's set to "3". If you mean something else, I don't understand.

>The 68 - 50 pin cable - are you sure it is correctly pinned, and does not need a converter?

The drive was tested on an Adaptec 2940 (narrow SCSI SE) with the same cable and terminator and passed Quantum's DLTsage diagnostics. The adaptor in the rp2470 also appears to be a narrow SCSI SE; as does the HP DVD-ROM drive.

>The sea should see everything in the scsi chain.

It shows the DVD, but not the DLT.

>Try this -
>Go into sam's device manager, and see if you can add the device (It probably needs to be in the device portion of the kernel), then, run
>insf -e
>to create the device files.

Did that; it suggested several drivers be added to the kernel (including tape2 and stape); I allowed SAM to add all of them and rebooted; still doesn't show the DLT drive.

# insf -e
insf: Installing special files for btlan instance 0 address 0/0/0/0
insf: Installing special files for sdisk instance 0 address 0/0/1/0.0.0
insf: Installing special files for sctl instance 0 address 0/0/1/0.7.0
insf: Installing special files for sdisk instance 1 address 0/0/1/0.8.0
insf: Installing special files for sctl instance 1 address 0/0/1/0.15.0
insf: Installing special files for sctl instance 2 address 0/0/1/1.7.0
insf: Installing special files for sdisk instance 2 address 0/0/1/1.15.0
insf: Installing special files for sdisk instance 3 address 0/0/2/0.1.0
insf: Installing special files for sctl instance 3 address 0/0/2/0.7.0
insf: Installing special files for sctl instance 4 address 0/0/2/1.7.0
insf: Installing special files for sdisk instance 4 address 0/0/2/1.15.0
insf: Installing special files for asio0 instance 0 address 0/0/4/1
insf: Installing special files for sdisk instance 5 address 0/6/0/0.0.0
insf: Installing special files for sctl instance 5 address 0/6/0/0.7.0
insf: Installing special files for sdisk instance 6 address 0/6/0/0.8.0
insf: Installing special files for sctl instance 6 address 0/6/0/0.15.0
insf: Installing special files for pseudo driver cn
insf: Installing special files for pseudo driver mm
insf: Installing special files for pseudo driver devkrs
insf: Installing special files for pseudo driver ptym
insf: Installing special files for pseudo driver ptys
insf: Installing special files for pseudo driver ip
insf: Installing special files for pseudo driver arp
insf: Installing special files for pseudo driver rawip
insf: Installing special files for pseudo driver tcp
insf: Installing special files for pseudo driver udp
insf: Installing special files for pseudo driver stcpmap
insf: Installing special files for pseudo driver nuls
insf: Installing special files for pseudo driver netqa
insf: Installing special files for pseudo driver dmem
insf: Installing special files for pseudo driver diag0
insf: Installing special files for pseudo driver telm
insf: Installing special files for pseudo driver tels
insf: Installing special files for pseudo driver tlclts
insf: Installing special files for pseudo driver tlcots
insf: Installing special files for pseudo driver iomem
insf: Installing special files for pseudo driver tlcotsod
insf: Installing special files for pseudo driver dmp
insf: Installing special files for pseudo driver vols
insf: Installing special files for pseudo driver dev_config
insf: Installing special files for pseudo driver strlog
insf: Installing special files for pseudo driver sad
insf: Installing special files for pseudo driver echo
insf: Installing special files for pseudo driver dlpi
insf: Installing special files for pseudo driver ptm
insf: Installing special files for pseudo driver pts
insf: Installing special files for pseudo driver diag1
insf: Installing special files for pseudo driver klog
insf: Installing special files for pseudo driver sy
insf: Installing special files for pseudo driver kepd
insf: Installing special files for pseudo driver diag2
insf: Installing special files for pseudo driver root
#

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Paula J Frazer-Campbell:
>http://.../jmprs_dlt7000.htm

It's a new, external DLT and the case is sealed with labels that say (in effect): "Warranty void if opened."
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Andrew Rutter:
>hi, dont think DLT drives are supported boot devices and are never seen at PDC level, after reboot interupted. Doing a search never finds them. It will however find other sequential drives like DAT. Are you sure Ioscan doesnt show it?

>If you post the ioscan here we can have a look at it for you.

# ioscan
H/W Path Class Description
===================================================
root
0 ioa System Bus Adapter (582)
0/0 ba Local PCI Bus Adapter (782)
0/0/0/0 lan HP PCI 10/100Base-TX Core
0/0/1/0 ext_bus SCSI C896 Ultra Wide LVD
0/0/1/0.0 target
0/0/1/0.0.0 disk HP 36.4GST336753LC
0/0/1/0.7 target
0/0/1/0.7.0 ctl Initiator
0/0/1/0.8 target
0/0/1/0.8.0 disk HP 36.4GST336753LC
0/0/1/0.15 target
0/0/1/0.15.0 ctl HP A6491A
0/0/1/1 ext_bus SCSI C896 Ultra Wide Single-Ended
0/0/1/1.7 target
0/0/1/1.7.0 ctl Initiator
0/0/1/1.15 target
0/0/1/1.15.0 disk HP 36.4GMAS3367NC
0/0/2/0 ext_bus SCSI C87x Fast Wide Single-Ended
0/0/2/0.1 target
0/0/2/0.1.0 disk HP DVD-ROM 305
0/0/2/0.7 target
0/0/2/0.7.0 ctl Initiator
0/0/2/1 ext_bus SCSI C87x Ultra Wide Single-Ended
0/0/2/1.7 target
0/0/2/1.7.0 ctl Initiator
0/0/2/1.15 target
0/0/2/1.15.0 disk HP 36.4GST336753LC
0/0/4/0 tty PCI BaseSystem (103c128d)
0/0/4/1 tty PCI Serial (103c1048)
0/2 ba Local PCI Bus Adapter (782)
0/4 ba Local PCI Bus Adapter (782)
0/6 ba Local PCI Bus Adapter (782)
0/6/0/0 ext_bus SCSI C1010 Ultra160 Wide LVD A6828-60101
0/6/0/0.0 target
0/6/0/0.0.0 disk HP 36.4GST336753LC
0/6/0/0.7 target
0/6/0/0.7.0 ctl Initiator
0/6/0/0.8 target
0/6/0/0.8.0 disk HP 36.4GST336753LC
0/6/0/0.15 target
0/6/0/0.15.0 ctl HP A6491A
8 memory Memory
160 processor Processor
162 processor Processor
# ioscan -f
Class I H/W Path Driver S/W State H/W Type Description
============================================================================
root 0 root CLAIMED BUS_NEXUS
ioa 0 0 sba CLAIMED BUS_NEXUS System Bus Adapter (582)
ba 0 0/0 lba CLAIMED BUS_NEXUS Local PCI Bus Adapter (782)
lan 0 0/0/0/0 btlan CLAIMED INTERFACE HP PCI 10/100Base-TX Core
ext_bus 0 0/0/1/0 c720 CLAIMED INTERFACE SCSI C896 Ultra Wide LVD
target 0 0/0/1/0.0 tgt CLAIMED DEVICE
disk 0 0/0/1/0.0.0 sdisk CLAIMED DEVICE HP 36.4GST336753LC
target 1 0/0/1/0.7 tgt CLAIMED DEVICE
ctl 0 0/0/1/0.7.0 sctl CLAIMED DEVICE Initiator
target 2 0/0/1/0.8 tgt CLAIMED DEVICE
disk 1 0/0/1/0.8.0 sdisk CLAIMED DEVICE HP 36.4GST336753LC
target 3 0/0/1/0.15 tgt CLAIMED DEVICE
ctl 1 0/0/1/0.15.0 sctl CLAIMED DEVICE HP A6491A
ext_bus 1 0/0/1/1 c720 CLAIMED INTERFACE SCSI C896 Ultra Wide Single-Ended
target 4 0/0/1/1.7 tgt CLAIMED DEVICE
ctl 2 0/0/1/1.7.0 sctl CLAIMED DEVICE Initiator
target 5 0/0/1/1.15 tgt CLAIMED DEVICE
disk 2 0/0/1/1.15.0 sdisk CLAIMED DEVICE HP 36.4GMAS3367NC
ext_bus 2 0/0/2/0 c720 CLAIMED INTERFACE SCSI C87x Fast Wide Single-Ended
target 6 0/0/2/0.1 tgt CLAIMED DEVICE
disk 3 0/0/2/0.1.0 sdisk CLAIMED DEVICE HP DVD-ROM 305
target 7 0/0/2/0.7 tgt CLAIMED DEVICE
ctl 3 0/0/2/0.7.0 sctl CLAIMED DEVICE Initiator
ext_bus 3 0/0/2/1 c720 CLAIMED INTERFACE SCSI C87x Ultra Wide Single-Ended
target 8 0/0/2/1.7 tgt CLAIMED DEVICE
ctl 4 0/0/2/1.7.0 sctl CLAIMED DEVICE Initiator
target 9 0/0/2/1.15 tgt CLAIMED DEVICE
disk 4 0/0/2/1.15.0 sdisk CLAIMED DEVICE HP 36.4GST336753LC
tty 1 0/0/4/0 func0 CLAIMED INTERFACE PCI BaseSystem (103c128d)
tty 0 0/0/4/1 asio0 CLAIMED INTERFACE PCI Serial (103c1048)
ba 1 0/2 lba CLAIMED BUS_NEXUS Local PCI Bus Adapter (782)
ba 2 0/4 lba CLAIMED BUS_NEXUS Local PCI Bus Adapter (782)
ba 3 0/6 lba CLAIMED BUS_NEXUS Local PCI Bus Adapter (782)
ext_bus 4 0/6/0/0 c8xx CLAIMED INTERFACE SCSI C1010 Ultra160 Wide LVD A6828-60101
target 10 0/6/0/0.0 tgt CLAIMED DEVICE
disk 5 0/6/0/0.0.0 sdisk CLAIMED DEVICE HP 36.4GST336753LC
target 11 0/6/0/0.7 tgt CLAIMED DEVICE
ctl 5 0/6/0/0.7.0 sctl CLAIMED DEVICE Initiator
target 12 0/6/0/0.8 tgt CLAIMED DEVICE
disk 6 0/6/0/0.8.0 sdisk CLAIMED DEVICE HP 36.4GST336753LC
target 13 0/6/0/0.15 tgt CLAIMED DEVICE
ctl 6 0/6/0/0.15.0 sctl CLAIMED DEVICE HP A6491A
memory 0 8 memory CLAIMED MEMORY Memory
processor 0 160 processor CLAIMED PROCESSOR Processor
processor 1 162 processor CLAIMED PROCESSOR Processor
#

>There is patches for the DLT7000's as well you can download if needed.

Can you be more specific?
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Paula J Frazer-Campbell:
>Full 7000 manual.
>http://.../dlt7000productmanual.pdf

I didn't have that yet. Thanks!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Paula J Frazer-Campbell:
>>There are only three devices on this SCSI bus:
>>0/0/2/0.3.0 DLT7000
>>0/0/2/0.1.0 DVD
>>0/0/2/0.7.0 controller/HBA

>Gave me an idea try setting the DLT to 8 or above.

The SCSI bus it's on is narrow, so only addresses from 0 to 7 are valid.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Volker Borowski:
>what happens, if you dump the DVD and hook up the DLT directly ? Just to eliminate the cable?

No change (except the DVD isn't seen, of course).
Japanese proverb: "Fall seven times; stand up eight."