Bonding 10Gb and 1Gb ports

[adelgado]

Hello,

I'd like to know if is possible bonding 10Gb and 1Gb ports.

The plan is to configure one 10Gb port and one 1Gb port from H3C 5500 to one 10Gb port and 1Gb port on HP 7510.

Regards,

Alex.

[parnassus]

No, it's not possible to aggregate (Port Trunking/Port Bonding/Port Teaming/Link Aggregation/etc.) physical interfaces with dissimilar media speeds (10Gbps with 1Gbps or vice-versa). You can instead aggregate 1Gbps with other 1Gbps interafaces (up to 8 in a single aggregation group, generally) or 10Gbps with other 10Gbps interfaces, you can't do a mix.

[Vince-Whirlwind]

You could use 2 10Gb ports, but use media converters on one of the links to reduce it to 1Gb.

:)

But seriously....whose idea was this?

[adelgado]

Hi,

Yes, I know it seems quite strange, but my IT manager told me to do so. I advice him I though it was not possible to bond different types of speeds, but he insisted.

Because of this I decided to post this here.

Thanks a lot,

[adelgado]

Hi,

With media converters, do you mean SPF transceivers?

I see I can use 1Gb SPF on 10Gb ports, and that would be the way to go.

Regards,

[parnassus]

There is some confusion running on...

Using an SFP Transceiver on a SFP+ slot supporting SFP/SFP+ Transceivers is totally possible but this is unrelated with request done (as it was written): for Port Trunking you still must use all SFP or all SFP+ Transceivers...on both ends...not a mix.

[Vince-Whirlwind]

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@adelgadowrote:

With media converters, do you mean SPF transceivers?

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No, I meant media converters, not transceivers. It was a joke. I was mocking your boss's completely terrible idea.

If you need both links up, make both links live independently of each other and then use spanning tree to block the 1Gb link.

[parnassus]

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@Vince-Whirlwindwrote: I was mocking your boss's completely terrible idea.

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Wondering why it's so usual to hear managers having terrible ideas...

[MarkosV]

Hello,

I know this is an old thread, but the need for bonding 10GbE with 1GbE ports occurs in newer 1950 series comware switches when there is legacy 1GbE SFP equipment which needs to be bonded with 1GbE copper ports (and media converters must be avoided - ugly solution and an extra point of failure) since the SFP media ports on the 1950s are 10GbE.

HOWEVER, in a mixed, one 1GbE and two 10GbE port BAGG (1GbE equipment connected on SFPs), when both 10GbE ports go down (both SFPs pulled) the 1GbE copper port is activated correctly, which makes the BAGG to work as a failover, but still not as aggregate/bond (all three ports to be up with an aggregate bandwidth of 3000000bps)

Loadsharing Type: Shar -- Loadsharing, NonS -- Non-Loadsharing
Port Status: S -- Selected, U -- Unselected, I -- Individual
Port: A -- Auto port, M -- Management port, R -- Reference port
Flags: A -- LACP_Activity, B -- LACP_Timeout, C -- Aggregation,
D -- Synchronization, E -- Collecting, F -- Distributing,
G -- Defaulted, H -- Expired

Aggregate Interface: Bridge-Aggregation1
Creation Mode: Manual
Aggregation Mode: Dynamic
Loadsharing Type: Shar
Management VLANs: None
System ID: 0x8000, 4cae-a305-f79e
Local:
Port Status Priority Index Oper-Key Flag
GE1/0/47 U 32768 1 1 {ACG}
XGE1/0/49(R) S 32768 2 1 {ACDEF}
XGE1/0/50 S 32768 3 1 {ACDEF}
Remote:
Actor Priority Index Oper-Key SystemID Flag
GE1/0/47 32768 0 0 0x8000, 0000-0000-0000 {DEF}
XGE1/0/49 32768 2 1 0x8000, 4cae-a3c3-2d42 {ACDEF}
XGE1/0/50 32768 3 1 0x8000, 4cae-a3c3-2d42 {ACDEF}

Bridge-Aggregation1
Current state: UP
Line protocol state: UP
IP packet frame type: Ethernet II, hardware address: 4cae-a305-f7f7
Description: Bridge-Aggregation1 Interface
Bandwidth: 2000000 kbps
2Gbps-speed mode, full-duplex mode
Link speed type is autonegotiation, link duplex type is autonegotiation
PVID: 1
Port link-type: Access
 Tagged VLANs:   None
 Untagged VLANs: 1
Last clearing of counters: Never
Last 300 seconds input:  1355 packets/sec 1647021 bytes/sec 0%
Last 300 seconds output:  611 packets/sec 140594 bytes/sec 0%
Input (total):  17884683 packets, 12797904422 bytes
        12317055 unicasts, 4922279 broadcasts, 630655 multicasts, 0 pauses
Input (normal):  17869989 packets, - bytes
        12317055 unicasts, 4922279 broadcasts, 630655 multicasts, 0 pauses
Input:  597 input errors, 0 runts, 0 giants, 0 throttles
        597 CRC, 0 frame, - overruns, 0 aborts
        - ignored, - parity errors
Output (total): 15664094 packets, 7443090029 bytes
        10462157 unicasts, 4563115 broadcasts, 638822 multicasts, 0 pauses
Output (normal): 15664094 packets, - bytes
        10462157 unicasts, 4563115 broadcasts, 638822 multicasts, 0 pauses
Output: 0 output errors, - underruns, - buffer failures
        0 aborts, 0 deferred, 0 collisions, 0 late collisions
        0 lost carrier, - no carrier

I have tried to statically set all ports to link speed 1Gb and full-duplex mode instead of auto, without luck.

GigabitEthernet1/0/47
Current state: UP
Line protocol state: DOWN(LAGG)
IP packet frame type: Ethernet II, hardware address: 4cae-a305-f7f5
Description: GigabitEthernet1/0/47 Interface
Bandwidth: 1000000 kbps
Loopback is not set
Media type is twisted pair
Port hardware type is 1000_BASE_T
1000Mbps-speed mode, full-duplex mode
Link speed type is force link, link duplex type is force link
Flow-control is not enabled
Maximum frame length: 12288
Allow jumbo frames to pass
Broadcast max-ratio: 100%
Multicast max-ratio: 100%
Unicast max-ratio: 100%
PVID: 1
MDI type: Automdix
Port link-type: Access
Tagged VLANs: None
Untagged VLANs: 1
Port priority: 0
Last link flapping: 0 hours 28 minutes 58 seconds
Last clearing of counters: Never


Ten-GigabitEthernet1/0/49
Current state: UP
Line protocol state: UP
IP packet frame type: Ethernet II, hardware address: 4cae-a305-f7f7
Description: Ten-GigabitEthernet1/0/49 Interface
Bandwidth: 1000000 kbps
Loopback is not set
Media type is optical fiber, Port hardware type is 1000_BASE_LX_SFP
1000Mbps-speed mode, full-duplex mode
Link speed type is force link, link duplex type is force link
Flow-control is not enabled
Maximum frame length: 12288
Allow jumbo frames to pass
Broadcast max-ratio: 100%
Multicast max-ratio: 100%
Unicast max-ratio: 100%
PVID: 1
Port link-type: Access
 Tagged VLANs:   None
 Untagged VLANs: 1
Port priority: 0
Last link flapping: 0 hours 25 minutes 12 seconds
Last clearing of counters: Never
Current system time:2021-03-25 11:15:00 Athens+02:00:00
Last time when physical state changed to up:2021-03-25 10:49:48 Athens+02:00:00
Last time when physical state changed to down:2021-03-25 10:49:48 Athens+02:00:00
 Peak input rate: 1164232 bytes/sec, at 2021-03-25 10:20:57
 Peak output rate: 3428156 bytes/sec, at 2021-03-25 10:20:57
 Last 300 seconds input: 148 packets/sec 46003 bytes/sec 0%
 Last 300 seconds output: 214 packets/sec 67189 bytes/sec 0%
 Input (total):  4422813 packets, 623427695 bytes
         1542167 unicasts, 2412293 broadcasts, 465833 multicasts, 0 pauses
 Input (normal):  4420293 packets, - bytes
         1542167 unicasts, 2412293 broadcasts, 465833 multicasts, 0 pauses
 Input:  0 input errors, 0 runts, 0 giants, 0 throttles
         0 CRC, 0 frame, - overruns, 0 aborts
         - ignored, - parity errors
 Output (total): 4926081 packets, 1717856190 bytes
         2553547 unicasts, 2214272 broadcasts, 158262 multicasts, 0 pauses
 Output (normal): 4926081 packets, - bytes
         2553547 unicasts, 2214272 broadcasts, 158262 multicasts, 0 pauses
 Output: 0 output errors, - underruns, - buffer failures
         0 aborts, 0 deferred, 0 collisions, 0 late collisions
         0 lost carrier, - no carrier


Ten-GigabitEthernet1/0/50
Current state: UP
Line protocol state: UP
IP packet frame type: Ethernet II, hardware address: 4cae-a305-f7f8
Description: Ten-GigabitEthernet1/0/50 Interface
Bandwidth: 1000000 kbps
Loopback is not set
Media type is optical fiber, Port hardware type is 1000_BASE_LX_SFP
1000Mbps-speed mode, full-duplex mode
Link speed type is force link, link duplex type is force link
Flow-control is not enabled
Maximum frame length: 12288
Allow jumbo frames to pass
Broadcast max-ratio: 100%
Multicast max-ratio: 100%
Unicast max-ratio: 100%
PVID: 1
Port link-type: Access
 Tagged VLANs:   None
 Untagged VLANs: 1
Port priority: 0
Last link flapping: 0 hours 34 minutes 31 seconds
Last clearing of counters: Never
Current system time:2021-03-25 11:15:26 Athens+02:00:00
Last time when physical state changed to up:2021-03-25 10:40:54 Athens+02:00:00
Last time when physical state changed to down:2021-03-25 10:40:54 Athens+02:00:00
 Peak input rate: 1577361 bytes/sec, at 2021-03-25 11:15:22
 Peak output rate: 1313986 bytes/sec, at 2021-03-25 10:21:12
 Last 300 seconds input: 1237 packets/sec 1577361 bytes/sec 1%
 Last 300 seconds output: 424 packets/sec 77348 bytes/sec 0%
 Input (total):  7793256 packets, 6036895954 bytes
         5156181 unicasts, 2478048 broadcasts, 146861 multicasts, 0 pauses
 Input (normal):  7781090 packets, - bytes
         5156181 unicasts, 2478048 broadcasts, 146861 multicasts, 0 pauses
 Input:  597 input errors, 0 runts, 0 giants, 0 throttles
         597 CRC, 0 frame, - overruns, 0 aborts
         - ignored, - parity errors
 Output (total): 5768583 packets, 1203225690 bytes
         3019762 unicasts, 2294961 broadcasts, 453860 multicasts, 0 pauses
 Output (normal): 5768583 packets, - bytes
         3019762 unicasts, 2294961 broadcasts, 453860 multicasts, 0 pauses
 Output: 0 output errors, - underruns, - buffer failures
         0 aborts, 0 deferred, 0 collisions, 0 late collisions
         0 lost carrier, - no carrier

GigabitEthernet1/0/47:
Aggregate Interface: Bridge-Aggregation1
Local:
    Port Number: 1
    Port Priority: 32768
    Oper-Key: 1
    Flag: {ACG}
Remote:
    System ID: 0x8000, 0000-0000-0000
    Port Number: 0
    Port Priority: 32768
    Oper-Key: 0
    Flag: {DEF}
Received LACP Packets: 0 packet(s)
Illegal: 0 packet(s)
Sent LACP Packets: 67 packet(s)

Ten-GigabitEthernet1/0/49:
Aggregate Interface: Bridge-Aggregation1
Local:
    Port Number: 2
    Port Priority: 32768
    Oper-Key: 1
    Flag: {ACDEF}
Remote:
    System ID: 0x8000, 4cae-a3c3-2d42
    Port Number: 2
    Port Priority: 32768
    Oper-Key: 1
    Flag: {ACDEF}
Received LACP Packets: 128 packet(s)
Illegal: 0 packet(s)
Sent LACP Packets: 953 packet(s)

Ten-GigabitEthernet1/0/50:
Aggregate Interface: Bridge-Aggregation1
Local:
    Port Number: 3
    Port Priority: 32768
    Oper-Key: 1
    Flag: {ACDEF}
Remote:
    System ID: 0x8000, 4cae-a3c3-2d42
    Port Number: 3
    Port Priority: 32768
    Oper-Key: 1
    Flag: {ACDEF}
Received LACP Packets: 228 packet(s)
Illegal: 0 packet(s)
Sent LACP Packets: 2192 packet(s)

Since static speed and duplex do not work but failover works what can be the reason that the BAGG is not aggregating the mixed media ports? Maybe it is doable after all, requiring a different configuration?

Thanks!

[parnassus]

Hello, LAG (Non Protocol also known as Static aggregation OR LACP) requires
that LAG candidate member interfaces use same media types and, more
importantly, same exact interface speed and full duplex mode. So 10G+10G is
feasible (LAG forms and works correctly as expected, clearly if peer LAG
matches too), 1G+1G is OK too BUT no way it will work with a combination of
1G/10G interfaces.