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grenzo
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Installa module LSPM2SP2P

Hi,

I SHOULD INSTALL THE LSPM2SP2P MODULE ON A SWITCH JG236A
how can i check that it works?

Thanks

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Ivan_B
HPE Pro

Re: Installa module LSPM2SP2P

Hi @grenzo !

This module has only port LEDs, so in order to verify if the module works (without any transceiver/cable) I suggest you checking its status by:

 

display device verbose

 

in the output you should see something like this:

 

SubCard     : 1
    Status      : Normal
    Name        : JD368B
    PCB Ver     : REV.A
    CPLD Ver    : NULL
    PortNum     : 2

 


also the "display version" command should report this module in a 'subslot' seciton, like here:

 

  ===============display version===============
===================================================
HP Comware Platform Software
Comware Software, Version 5.20.99, Release 2221P18
Copyright (c) 2010-2015 Hewlett-Packard Development Company, L.P.
HP A5120-48G-PoE+ EI Switch with 2 Interface Slots uptime is 4 weeks, 4 days, 19 hours, 55 minutes

HP A5120-48G-PoE+ EI Switch with 2 Interface Slots with 1 Processor
128M    bytes SDRAM
16384K  bytes Flash Memory

Hardware Version is REV.B
CPLD Version is 007
Bootrom Version is 621
[SubSlot 0] 48GE+4SFP+POE Plus Hardware Version is REV.B
[SubSlot 1] 2 SFP+ Hardware Version is REV.A
[SubSlot 2] 2 SFP+ Hardware Version is REV.A

 

 

Hope this helps!

 

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grenzo
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Re: Installa module LSPM2SP2P

Hi,

 
ok everything works as you say,
however when I insert the transceiver AFBR-709ASMZ-E2 appears:
 

%Apr 26 12:08:23:133 2000 HP OPTMOD/4/MODULE_IN:
Ten-GigabitEthernet1/1/1: The transceiver is 10G_BASE_SR_SFP.

%Apr 26 12:08:23:274 2000 HP OPTMOD/4/FIBER_SFPMODULE_NOWINVALID:
Ten-GigabitEthernet1/1/1: This is not a supported transceiver for this platform . HPE does not guarantee the normal operation or maintenance of unsupported tran sceivers. Please review the platform datasheet on the HPE web site or contact yo ur HPE sales rep for a list of supported transceivers.

#Apr 26 12:08:23:725 2000 HP ENTITY/1/PHONY ENTITY:
Trap 1.3.6.1.4.1.25506.2.6.2.0.11: Entity ID is 130, entity extend ID is 130, e ntity name is Ten-GigabitEthernet1/1/1, admin status is 4, alarm light status is 0

%Apr 26 12:09:48:692 2000 HP IFNET/3/LINK_UPDOWN: GigabitEthernet1/0/1 link stat us is DOWN.
%Apr 26 12:09:54:735 2000 HP IFNET/3/LINK_UPDOWN: Ten-GigabitEthernet1/1/1 link status is UP.
%Apr 26 12:09:55:453 2000 HP LLDP/6/LLDP_CREATE_NEIGHBOR: New neighbor created o n Port Ten-GigabitEthernet1/1/1 (IfIndex 12320796), Chassis ID is 3822-d62b-f299 , Port ID is Ten-GigabitEthernet2/0/5.
<HP>
%Apr 26 12:11:30:139 2000 HP LLDP/5/LLDP_NEIGHBOR_AGE_OUT: Neighbor aged out on Port GigabitEthernet1/0/1 (IfIndex 9437184), Chassis ID is b8af-67f9-9b5a, Port ID is GigabitEthernet1/0/36.

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the transceiver is not compatible?
Thanks

 

 
Ivan_B
HPE Pro

Re: Installa module LSPM2SP2P

It is not officially compatible, that's why you get that alarm message. Comware switches and routers officially support only HPE-branded transceivers. For the rest you will be getting those alarms every time you plug them and then periodic alarms while use them.

However, if the transceiver works and you still insist on using it despite all the risks, you can disable that alarm by:

system-view
transceiver phony-alarm-disable

However, I am not 100% sure if 5120 model has this command, so just try to figure out.

 

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grenzo
Frequent Advisor

Re: Installa module LSPM2SP2P

In fact it doesn't work:

[HP]transceiver phony-alarm-disable
^
% Unrecognized command found at '^' position.
[HP]

how can I do ?

grenzo
Frequent Advisor

Re: Installa module LSPM2SP2P

however the link to another switch with the 10Gbps port works the same.

how do i check that it works well?

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Ivan_B
HPE Pro

Re: Installa module LSPM2SP2P

As I stated in my previous message - "I am not 100% sure if 5120 model has this command, so just try to figure out."  If your switch is running the latest version and the command is not there, it means that it was never implemented in this model. It is quite old, no surprise. But in general this is the command in Comware to disable that alarm. However, I want you to understand one fact - this command just disables the alarm. Nothing else. If your transceiver works on 5120, it will continue to work with or without this command. The command does not enable incompatible transceivers nor makes them compatible. It just eliminates the inconvenience of having your log spammed by that alarm, just that. And of course as HPE employee I need to recommend you to use only compatible transceivers - at the end of the day it will cost you less to run reliable and predictable hardware.

 

 

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grenzo
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Re: Installa module LSPM2SP2P

 
ok, well, but if i wanted to test if the transceiver works well at 10Mbps how could i do?
Is there any way?
 
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Ivan_B
HPE Pro

Re: Installa module LSPM2SP2P

10Mbps or 10Gbps? I am sure you mean 10Gbps... I decided to highlight this, because normally SFP+ transceivers do not support 10Mbps speed.

The term "works well" is not very clearly defined, but taking into account we speak about transceivers and optical links, I know only one command that can show you a quality of the received signal - "display transceiver diagnosis interface <interface_number>" However, your transceiver must support DOM in order to provide such information to our switch. And since its not officially compatible, even if it's got DOM, no guarantee the switch will be able to process it. 

If you would use a compatible transceiver, the output would look like this:

<Sysname> display transceiver diagnosis interface gigabitethernet 1/0/25
GigabitEthernet1/0/25 transceiver diagnostic information:
Current diagnostic parameters:
Temp(°C) Voltage(V) Bias(mA) RX power(dBm) TX power(dBm)
36       3.31       6.13     -35.64        -5.19

And then it is up to you to use these values in order to conclude if the link "works well" or it doesn't.

 

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grenzo
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Re: Installa module LSPM2SP2P

10Gbps not 10Mbps sorry

I tried

[HP]display transceiver interface
GigabitEthernet1/0/25 transceiver information:
Error: The transceiver is absent.

GigabitEthernet1/0/26 transceiver information:
Error: The transceiver is absent.

GigabitEthernet1/0/27 transceiver information:
Error: The transceiver is absent.

GigabitEthernet1/0/28 transceiver information:
Error: The transceiver is absent.

Ten-GigabitEthernet1/1/1 transceiver information:
Transceiver Type : 10G_BASE_SR_SFP
Connector Type : LC
Wavelength(nm) : 850
Transfer Distance(m) : 80(50um),30(62.5um),300(om3)
Digital Diagnostic Monitoring : YES
Vendor Name : AVAGO
Info: This is not a supported transceiver for this platform. HPE does not guarantee the normal operation or maintenance of unsupported transceivers. Please review the platform datasheet on the HPE web site or contact your HPE sales rep for a list of supported transceivers.

Ten-GigabitEthernet1/1/2 transceiver information:
Error: The transceiver is absent.

[HP]display transceiver diagnosis interface Ten-GigabitEthernet1/1/1
Error: The transceiver does not support this function.

[HP]

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Did I do something wrong ?

thanks

Ivan_B
HPE Pro
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Re: Installa module LSPM2SP2P

No, everything seems fine, you don't see diagnostic info because the switch can't read it from the transceiver. It happens when you use parts outside official compatibility list.

I couldn't say it better than the switch itself: "Info: This is not a supported transceiver for this platform. HPE does not guarantee the normal operation or maintenance of unsupported transceivers. Please review the platform datasheet on the HPE web site or contact your HPE sales rep for a list of supported transceivers."

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grenzo
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Re: Installa module LSPM2SP2P

ok, well you were very kind and very competent
Thank you very much

grenzo
Frequent Advisor

Re: Installa module LSPM2SP2P

Hi,

sorry but multimode compatible transceivers are only these?

HP X130 10G SFP+ LC SR Transceiver JD092B
HP X130 10G SFP+ LC LRM Transceiver JD093B

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Ivan_B
HPE Pro

Re: Installa module LSPM2SP2P

Yes, I have checkes QuickSpecs, latest release notes and can confirm these are the only compatible SFP+ 10G multimode transceivers for this swich.

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grenzo
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Re: Installa module LSPM2SP2P

Ok, well

 
What is the difference between them? Can I use both of them?
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Ivan_B
HPE Pro

Re: Installa module LSPM2SP2P

The difference is quite obvious - one supports 10GBase-SR 802.3ae standard, another supports 10GBASE-LRM 802.3aq standard. You can use both transceivers, but not on the same fiber, because 10GBase-SR won't hear signal from 10GBASE-LRM as they use different wavelength. Not only that is the difference, but this one is enough to explain their incompatibility.

 

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grenzo
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Re: Installa module LSPM2SP2P

Hi,

I bought some original HP JD093B transeivers and did the test:

Temp(°C) Voltage(V) Bias(mA) RX power(dBm) TX power(dBm)
32                 3.29         48.93        -8.19                     -2.01

how do they look like?
What do those values mean?

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Ivan_B
HPE Pro

Re: Installa module LSPM2SP2P

Here is the detailed description of the values:

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grenzo
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Re: Installa module LSPM2SP2P

Ok, 

but unfortunately I'm not an expert and I don't know how to evaluate

These values I got tell me the connection is 10Gbps?

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Ivan_B
HPE Pro

Re: Installa module LSPM2SP2P

These values concern only quality of signal. In order to confirm the link is 10Gbps, check it with "display interface <interface_name>" look for "speed mode" line, it should be "10Gbps-speed mode, full-duplex mode"

 

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grenzo
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Re: Installa module LSPM2SP2P

Ok, thanks

But a strange thing happens to me:

if I use the compatible transceiver JD092B the port is up

if I use the original HP transceiver JD093B the port is down

How is it possible ?

 

Ivan_B
HPE Pro

Re: Installa module LSPM2SP2P

I am sure I have already stated that both are quite different:

The difference is quite obvious - one supports 10GBase-SR 802.3ae standard, another supports 10GBASE-LRM 802.3aq standard. You can use both transceivers, but not on the same fiber, because 10GBase-SR won't hear signal from 10GBASE-LRM as they use different wavelength. Not only that is the difference, but this one is enough to explain their incompatibility.

The port will be down if transceiver on another end of the cable is not compatible with JD093B. That one must be LRM as well.

 

 

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