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тАО08-06-2004 05:50 AM
тАО08-06-2004 05:50 AM
HP launching Linux Laptop "market test"... NO!
No! Please!
90% of the Linux types I know will be re-installing a different Linux distribution or just want to do it themselves.
What should the focus be?
REMOVING the 'Wireless Whitelist" that seems to be in EVERY BIOS of their current line of notebooks. These sorts of things are a huge barrier. I should be able to put in a DIFFERENT mini-PCI card without my BIOS halting telling me the card is not supported. Why would I want to use a different mini-PCI wireless card? Because HP only uses Broadcom which is notorious for it's lack of support for Linux.
Nasty hacks are able to get the Broadcom Windows drivers working under 32bit Linux... but what about all these wonderful Athlon64 notebooks? Do you think people are buying these to run 32bit Windows on? I hope not.
The R3000Z, nx9105, zx5000z(?) are all the same beast. By simply removing (unchecking the feature in the Phoenix Builder UI?) the Whitelist in one BIOS, HP would make all these notebooks "Linux Notebooks." (HP could also make available a Linux compatible 802.11g card... but your average Linux user is not afraid of putting in his/her own mini-PCI card)
I purchased my R3000Z knowing that the internal wireless would probably not work... but I never believed my freedom to replace the card would be taken.
-Scott Serr
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тАО08-06-2004 06:59 AM
тАО08-06-2004 06:59 AM
Re: HP launching Linux Laptop "market test"... NO!
There have been hundreds of threads here of people who tried to install Linux on HP laptops and failed because the hardware could not handle it.
Now that HP is releasing Linux laptops, some of these issues may subside.
I understand your point and quite respectfully disagree.
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тАО08-06-2004 11:47 PM
тАО08-06-2004 11:47 PM
Re: HP launching Linux Laptop "market test"... NO!
The more Hardware that is sold to run mutiple platform the better
Will it ever be 100% what every one want's
NO !
If I could assign point to HP for that one I would give then 10.
Jean-Pierre
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тАО08-08-2004 11:42 PM
тАО08-08-2004 11:42 PM
Re: HP launching Linux Laptop "market test"... NO!
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тАО11-30-2004 07:10 AM
тАО11-30-2004 07:10 AM
Re: HP launching Linux Laptop "market test"... NO!
The Linux-wlan project got the most contributions from Jean Tourhilles at HP, yet they're having such a stupid stance ? I can understand wanting to use the Broadcom chipset on all the laptops as Broadcom gave them a good deal.. but I really have no clue why there is a lock on which cards I can use, Broadcom and HP already have my money.. why does it matter what card I use ?
Even a simple explanation on this topic would be nice from HP. It's their laptop they can do with it as they please, but once I've paid for it, and am willing to sign in my own blood that they will not be held responsible for my actions.. why not let me ?.
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тАО11-30-2004 08:16 AM
тАО11-30-2004 08:16 AM
Re: HP launching Linux Laptop "market test"... NO!
At the same time, I feel for those of you who have been stung by the undocumented broadband whitelist. But why simply complain about it here? Why not demand your money back? In the USA, it is generally illegal to sell electronic components (including computers) without sufficient documentation. If you complain to the Attorney General's Office in most any state, they will basically force the retailer/manufacturer to return your money. I suspect the same is true in the EU.
Bruce
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тАО11-30-2004 09:49 AM
тАО11-30-2004 09:49 AM
Re: HP launching Linux Laptop "market test"... NO!
I gave up... I run 32bit Linux on my notebook so I don't have to have a lunker of a pcmcia card out the side. It IS slower... (I have benchmarked it and it feels slower too) It IS not why I bought a 64bit cpu. I probably could demand my money back... but really I don't want to get my money back, I want a BIOS that doesn't have the whitelist. I would be able to recommend these notebooks for Linux and be 100% satisified if this happened.
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тАО12-01-2004 04:50 AM
тАО12-01-2004 04:50 AM
Re: HP launching Linux Laptop "market test"... NO!
If only the emachines provided a higher resolution screen.. I had to go for the zd7310us just for that reason alone, gave the emachines to my gf. It's only 4 months old..
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тАО12-01-2004 11:00 AM
тАО12-01-2004 11:00 AM
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тАО12-01-2004 11:23 AM
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