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тАО09-01-2010 02:30 PM
тАО09-01-2010 02:30 PM
DS10 no longer generates beeps
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тАО09-01-2010 04:03 PM
тАО09-01-2010 04:03 PM
Re: DS10 no longer generates beeps
Is this "the machine that goes 'Ping!'"? ;-)
How do you generate the beeps from the operating system? It's fairly rare to hear of an OpenVMS system that actually needs to make noises. More often than not, they're in a rack in a machine room.
Have you checked inside the box to make sure the speaker is connected? If possible, compare with the old system.
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тАО09-01-2010 04:11 PM
тАО09-01-2010 04:11 PM
Re: DS10 no longer generates beeps
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тАО09-01-2010 04:47 PM
тАО09-01-2010 04:47 PM
Re: DS10 no longer generates beeps
Huh? What's an "error light"?
>I generated an error to see if the "beeps"
>worked during bootup.
Huh?? We're talking about a DS10 right?
Can you please describe the exact hardware configuration you're talking about. Does the DS10 have a mouse, display and keyboard attached? If so, are you running DECwindows, or just using the display as a glass teletype?
One alternative is to use a serial terminal, in which case beeps should be generated by the terminal, not the system box.
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тАО09-01-2010 08:16 PM
тАО09-01-2010 08:16 PM
Re: DS10 no longer generates beeps
For instance, was your "defective DS10" equipped with a graphics card? In that mode it's "not really" a server as much as it "sorta kinda" becomes an XP900-ish machine. There may also be jumpers on the motherboard that are configured differently between the two systems. Typically the "speaker beep" you hear from the Alpha is pretty loud and obnoxious while one from a slave console terminal is slightly less annoying and loud. But if there are jumpers to enable or disable speakers and not configured correctly you won't get it to beep at all unless you have a terminal.
Might have to consult the users guide, owners manual or service manual for this one to get it right...
bob
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тАО09-02-2010 01:04 AM
тАО09-02-2010 01:04 AM
Re: DS10 no longer generates beeps
Is the application using the keyboard "bell" to generate the beeps? That seems more likely than using the internal speaker, unless you've got the MMOV layered product installed (and even then I don't remember using it successfully on a DS10).
If the application is sending "bell" characters to the terminal, it's the keyboard that will generate the "beeps".
I remember that some of the LKwhatever keyboards we were using at the time changed the way the "bell" worked and we had to make sure we got keyboards with a revision level that worked properly. Some keyboard firmware gave us a "beep" for every "bell" character sent to the terminal, other firmware seemed to coalesce them into a single "beep", depending how spaced out (a deliberate joke - it was a satellite control centre) the "bell" characters were in time.
I might be able to find out what the firmware versions were, but it's a long time and a couple of companies ago. If you have a few different keyboards lying about, then it's a simple enough thing to try.
Cheers, Colin (http://www.xdelta.co.uk).
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тАО09-02-2010 08:42 AM
тАО09-02-2010 08:42 AM
Re: DS10 no longer generates beeps
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тАО09-02-2010 09:17 AM
тАО09-02-2010 09:17 AM
Re: DS10 no longer generates beeps
The AlphaServer DS10 box does have a speaker, and the sound requests get sent to that device from the host application software.
And for completeness, there was a change in how audible alert volume was managed within DECwindows, but (if the software versions and ECOs haven't changed) there shouldn't be a difference here.
@decw$utils:decw$define_utils
$ xset b 1 100 100
Given the bell doesn't work (at all), this does appear to be a hardware problem. (The SRM console firmware "knows" how to trigger the speaker to report hardware errors, and the problems reported with that path here would completely exonerate VMS from involvement.)