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10-27-2006 09:39 AM
10-27-2006 09:39 AM
VAX/Alpha Simulation on Intel Server for Hobbyist VMS
I am seeking to setup a VMS system in my home-office and have aquired the VMS Hobbyist license pack. I have available intel hardware and have read about SIMH Vax simulator. To avoid much out-of-pocket expense I wondered if this was a viable solution to experiment with VMS. Otherwise, what is the smallest/cheapest VMS compatible hardware I should consider.
Wanting to setup this test system so I can experiment with various things and not corupt our one Alpha/VMS machine.
Thanks,
John
john dot farmer at genworth dot com
Hardware: Compaq Proliant 5000r, 1gb mem, 4.3gb scsi, 10/100 NIC,
Software: Windows 2000 Server.
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10-27-2006 01:33 PM
10-27-2006 01:33 PM
Re: VAX/Alpha Simulation on Intel Server for Hobbyist VMS
I often run a small simulated environment on my Win2000 laptop.
Seriously though, you will not be running computationally intensive tasks. You will be experimenting with systems management issues, which is well within the capacity of a far smaller system than the one that you have at home.
If you want to set up a native system, small Alphastations and Alphaservers are often available on the secondary market at very inexpensive prices.
- Bob Gezelter, http://www.rlgsc.com
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10-27-2006 07:20 PM
10-27-2006 07:20 PM
Re: VAX/Alpha Simulation on Intel Server for Hobbyist VMS
besides the SimH VAX emulator, there is also the commercial CHARON-VAX product and CHARON-AXP (an Alpha emulator).
CHARON-VAX provides a free downloadable demo version (limited config: console, 2 disks, floppy, CD, ethernet and 3 hours run-time before a restart is required):
http://www.softresint.com/charon-vax/Tools_and_tips.htm#demo
For CHARON-AXP there is also a PersonalAlpha version (limited config to be run on Windows: console, 2 disks, floppy, CD, ethernet). You can freely download that version, but you must purchase a license after a 60 day free trial period.
http://www.emulatorsinternational.com/en/personalalpha.htm
Volker.
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10-28-2006 01:22 PM
10-28-2006 01:22 PM
Re: VAX/Alpha Simulation on Intel Server for Hobbyist VMS
running an emulated VAX is that you're
trapped at VMS VAX V7.3 (or older), which
lacks many of the features of the
contemporary and later non-VAX versions.
As I recall, an XP1000 (a respectable Alpha)
sold on Ebay recently for less than $200.
I'd call that a bargain, but such things are
open to individual interpretation.
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10-28-2006 10:29 PM
10-28-2006 10:29 PM
Re: VAX/Alpha Simulation on Intel Server for Hobbyist VMS
I definitely agree with Steven!
You are well advised to move to Alpha, (or possibly IA64, but that would be financially less feasable).
And and eBay Alpha will be (much) cheaper than an Alpha emulator.
Btw: if you regularly check comp.os.vms
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.vms
there are regular offers for old systems to just pick up. You _might_ strike luck, and have on of those in your area.
Proost.
Have one on me.
jpe
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10-30-2006 12:41 AM
10-30-2006 12:41 AM
Re: VAX/Alpha Simulation on Intel Server for Hobbyist VMS
Thanks,
John
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12-12-2006 04:48 AM
12-12-2006 04:48 AM
Re: VAX/Alpha Simulation on Intel Server for Hobbyist VMS
Thanks,
John