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AMS on Debain 12.5

 
astore
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AMS on Debain 12.5

Hello everyone,

 

I am trying to install Agentless Management Service on a DL20 gen10 plus server, in order to decrease fan speed.

The customer used the following command:

sudo apt install hp-health hponcfg amsd ams ssacli ssaducli ssa

found in the following forum:
https://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?p=735716
Unforutnately, it was not installed.

I already checked the following treads:

https://community.hpe.com/t5/servers-general/how-to-install-ams-on-debian/td-p/7184261

We tried with customers different solutions, no solution seems to fit.

I was told that AMS is not supported on Debian, this is the reason.

Is there a way to install AMS?

 

I thank in advance for the collaboration

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BunnyPon
Valued Contributor

Re: AMS on Debain 12.5

I can try that now, but I only have a DL20 Gen 10 (no plus, they are too expensive for toys) One of the common excuses for take-off thrust is "not using HP drives" which is pathetic because gold is cheaper.)  This is what I did with my DL20, it's called "pancake" (it has 4SFF and the E208i-a SR Gen10)

ILO is 3.04, raid is 6.52, bios is U43 3.00)

Boot, use intelligent provisioning and the SR provisioning to get a simple mirror. (note, when using that, the fans were 7, 7 and 6% respectively.)

Install debian bookworm, no frills, just the SSH. I used netinst here. Whoever had this DL20 before me installed an ILO Advanced license, which is a blessing. No desktop, 

Go here: https://downloads.linux.hpe.com/SDR/getting_started.html

wget https://downloads.linux.hpe.com/SDR/add_repo.sh

Use the "add_repo.sh" script to add "mcp"

apt install gnupg2

Install this key: https://downloads.linux.hpe.com/SDR/hpePublicKey2048_key1.pub

(2024.10.12 I just used apt-key here, but you aren't supposed to.)

apt update

apt install amsd ssacli

Before this, it was (WD SSD) Fan1, Fan2 ~16%, Fan3 ~ 41% (ambient 24'c according to ILO.) After a reboot, and an attempt to launch itself into orbit, the fans went back to 17, 17, 41. (The power meter says it is using about 48 W) Allowed this to sit for about 20 minutes. no improvement in the noise what so ever.

The most likely cause here is that my drives are not HP ones. So, specially to test that, let's do it again with some ancient HP 1TB Toshiba drives drives. 

ROUND **TWO** with the HP drives.

During install the fans slowed down from 16,16,16 which is just audible as a low drone and not a patch on the TM200 nearby to 6,6,6 which is effectively inaudible. Power is about 49 W, it is also significantly slower to install, but that is to be expected.

Note, after a reboot and without installing AMSD, the fans were ticking over at 20,20,20. This is acceptably quiet but not perfect. After a while it went back down to the 6,6,6

Installed AMSD, it started automatically.  Fans at 6,6,6. Sat there and did nothing for half an hour, no change.

stopped AMSD, ditto, no changes.

 

This leads me to suspect that you might not have "GENUINE SOLID GOLD DRIVES" in your machine. I have some HP S700's that I will try next!

(2024.10.12, verdict, If you don't have Smart attribute 0xBE, expect turbine mode. Ended up using old intel SSDs I have from my windows embedded era.)

 

(2024.10.12 Fixed for stupid typo.)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I can't Cat Today.
BunnyPon
Valued Contributor

Re: AMS on Debain 12.5

Update, 

HP S700 consumer SSDS = 6,6, 43% too noisy for anything. For this, I will blame the raid controller, but I could be completely wrong ^^l)

Interestingly, turning off the raid controller and letting it run as just passthough (which seems like a waste) got me back to 6,6,6% with no AMSD. Which does seem to imply that blaming the raid controller for the fans is the way to go.

(Now if only it had 2 NVMe slots...)

 

I can't Cat Today.
astore
Regular Visitor

Re: AMS on Debain 12.5

@BunnyPon 

Hello, thank you for your help.

I am still waiting for a feedback from end user, but in the end, considering it was new install, I was advised to try installing different OS, in order to minimise effort in installing AMS.

 

BunnyPon
Valued Contributor

Re: AMS on Debain 12.5

In this particular case, the effort installing AMSD and checking that it was working was negligible. Just a case of copy-pasta.

In short, it should work for you. I cannot, however, guarantee that it will work for the turbine, which should be just Fan 3 (the one cooling the drive bays.)

I did it about 4 or 5 times in the afternoon. What I really want to do is have a BIOS option for the fans like "SHUT UP!" because running a fan at 41% just because you have no idea how hot something is categorically not "optimal cooling" it is more like "persuade customer to buy DELL in future."

The only thing I can think of with my box (I do not know what yours has in it) is that non HP enterprise drives + raid controller = loud.

The current state is.

4 * 1tb (5+ year old 2.5" toshiba/HPE) in raid 10, AMSD, and 6,6,6% on the fans. BIOS is 3.00, ILO 3.04, raid controller is 6.52.

I would love to know what your hardware is and why it doesn't work for you.

I can't Cat Today.
echo9
New Member

Re: AMS on Debain 12.5

Weirdly enough, I stumbled upon this trying to lower my fans and get AMS installed,.

Im on a dl360 gen 10 with ilo 5 but got the fans to 11-15% under 30% load, but they just ramp tiny bits all the time.

Probably just being nitpicky but oh well.