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тАО02-22-2005 06:48 PM
тАО02-22-2005 06:48 PM
Re: Backup gets -RMS-E-FLK (file currently locked) on /LIST file
Could it be that not the file but the volume or directory is locked ?
Wim
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тАО02-22-2005 08:23 PM
тАО02-22-2005 08:23 PM
Re: Backup gets -RMS-E-FLK (file currently locked) on /LIST file
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тАО02-22-2005 09:10 PM
тАО02-22-2005 09:10 PM
Re: Backup gets -RMS-E-FLK (file currently locked) on /LIST file
"currently locked" caused by "out of diskspace" ? That would be a surprise ...
Wim
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тАО02-23-2005 12:04 AM
тАО02-23-2005 12:04 AM
Re: Backup gets -RMS-E-FLK (file currently locked) on /LIST file
Sorry I haven't been back for a while. I've (at least) two hats and I've had to look at some Windows CommVault Backup problems. I've also had a different problem on another Alpha. A Techie's work is never done! The backup is behaving itself still. However, I discovered we had the same problem on another server on Saturday, which nobody noticed. On this occasion, the batch file contained 3 backup jobs, each of which tried to create a different .LIS file and each of which failed with the same error. This server had just been swapped with a spare because the original developed a strange fault whereby it just started rebooting itself for no apparent reason. In other words, it started behaving like XP. Nothing in OPERATOR.LOG, nothing in ERRLOG.SYS, nothing in ACCOUNTNG.DAT. Nothing but normal operations and Time Stamps, then suddenly, reboot messages. We put it on a UPS, in case it was being spiked - it got worse. We had a spare so we connected the RAID disk enclosure to that and it all worked OK (except now I'm getting "SWXCR-DRA: Shelf error on channel 0" but that's another story). My reason for mentioning this, is that the first set of saves we tried after that got the -RMS-E-FLK error. As far as I know, they weren't having a problem until we "disturbed" the disks. However, it's beeen OK since (3 nights). Coincidence?
As far as I am aware, these problems did not occur before we changed from DSSI JBOD disks to SCSI RAID.
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тАО02-23-2005 07:56 AM
тАО02-23-2005 07:56 AM
Re: Backup gets -RMS-E-FLK (file currently locked) on /LIST file
Like Hein suggested, I think it's the enclosing directory. Something is locking it, preventing the creation of the listing file. Try enabling some AUDITs:
$ SET AUDIT/AUDIT
/ENABLE=(FILE=FAIL=ALL,CREATE)
and also place ALARM ACEs on the enclosing directories:
$ SET SECURITY DATA.DIR
/ACL=(AUDIT=SECURITY,ACCESS=WRITE+SUCCESS+FAIL)
After the event, go back over the audit trail to see who/what was messing with the directories.
When I simulate your symptom by opening a .DIR file exclusively and asking BACKUP to put a listing file in it, I see an "Object creation" event which fails with SYSTEM-W-ACCCONFLICT, followed immediately by a (successful?) "Object access" against my locked directory, both from BACKUP.EXE.
Unfortunately this doesn't give you a "smoking gun", but hopefully it will reveal more of what's going on.
Once you've confirmed that pattern, backtrack to try and identify which other processes have touched the directory in question - you may need to increase the scope of the AUDIT ACE, maybe to include READ access?
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тАО02-24-2005 09:13 PM
тАО02-24-2005 09:13 PM
Re: Backup gets -RMS-E-FLK (file currently locked) on /LIST file
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тАО02-27-2005 07:11 AM
тАО02-27-2005 07:11 AM
Re: Backup gets -RMS-E-FLK (file currently locked) on /LIST file
It can't be anything "normal" opening the directory, as any conflicting accesses would be queued. It would have to be something that explicitly locks the directory. I'm not aware of any OpenVMS components that would do that.
It may be worth leaving audits on that directory for a while to see what touches it.
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тАО02-27-2005 08:47 PM
тАО02-27-2005 08:47 PM
Re: Backup gets -RMS-E-FLK (file currently locked) on /LIST file
Oh, by the way, there are no version limits on the .LIS file or it's enclosing directories.
Thanks
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