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Re: Issues with queues on SMTP

 
Volker Halle
Honored Contributor

Re: Issues with queues on SMTP

Use $ TCPIP SHOW VERS/ALL and check the versions of TCPIP$SMTP_MAILSHR and TCPIP$SMTP_SYMBIONT.

It looks like you may have a old/wrong version of either one of those files. Any versions of those file in SYS$SPECIFIC: ?

Volker.
Hakan Zanderau ( Anders
Trusted Contributor

Re: Issues with queues on SMTP

I was away a couple of hours teaching Curling to local highschool students.

I agree with Steven and Volker......

Check the versions of

SYS$SYSTEM:TCPIP$SMTP_SYMBIONT.EXE
SYS$LIBRARY:TCPIP$SMTP_MAILSHR.EXE

and most important....HOW did this problem start ?

Normally you don't run TCPIP$SMTP_SYMBIONT.EXE manually, but if you do.

$ MCR TCPIP$SMTP_SYMBIONT
%SYSTEM-F-IVLOGNAM, invalid logical name
$

/Hakan
Don't make it worse by guessing.........
Steven Schweda
Honored Contributor

Re: Issues with queues on SMTP

> [...] but if you do.
>
> $ MCR TCPIP$SMTP_SYMBIONT
> %SYSTEM-F-IVLOGNAM, invalid logical name
> $

Or, around here:

ALP $ MCR TCPIP$SMTP_SYMBIONT
Tried to insert in uninitialized list.
Tried to insert in uninitialized list.
Tried to insert in uninitialized list.
[... no end in sight ...]

But it's still not complaining about
incompatible run-time stuff.

(Good thing they fixed that program.)


TCPIP$SMTP_SYMBIONT.EXE;1
590 4-OCT-2007 08:19:41.13 (RWED,RWED,RE,RE)
J Asson
Advisor

Re: Issues with queues on SMTP


No idea how it started - I was asked to investigate it not working by some programmers in my parent company in Canada - I am based in the Gold Coast Australia

EMSMCC $ dir sys$specific:[tcpip$smtp]/date/col=1

Directory SYS$SPECIFIC:[TCPIP$SMTP]

LOGIN.COM;1 31-JUL-2003 20:53:11.96
SMTP_CONFIG.TEMPLATE;5 29-JAN-2009 05:52:06.45
TCPIP$ANALYZE_SMTP.LOG;3 30-JAN-2009 06:24:21.80
TCPIP$ANALYZE_SMTP.LOG;2 30-JAN-2009 04:12:32.91
TCPIP$SMTP_LOGFILE.LOG;139
24-NOV-2008 15:59:09.87
TCPIP$SMTP_RECV_RUN.LOG;3
19-JAN-2009 17:27:08.14

Total of 6 files.


I will instruct them to apply the latest ECO for the rev of TCPIP and advise what happens in due course - thanks for all the help - you guys are awesome !


Volker Halle
Honored Contributor

Re: Issues with queues on SMTP

Please try to isolate the problem first instead of just 'applying patches' ...

If - for example - there is a bad file in SYS$SPECIFIC; you won't solve that problem with installing a patch.

$ TCPIP SHOW VERS/ALL will list the version and link date of all TCPIP images, just find the data for TCPIP$SMTP_MAILSHR and TCPIP$SMTP_SYMBIONT and post it here.

Also do a DIR SYS$SYSTEM:TCPIP$SMTP_SYMBIONT/DATE and SYS$LIBRARY:TCPIP$SMTP_MAILSHR/DATE and provide that information as well.

We may be able to find out, if those 2 images match your TCPIP ECO level.

Volker.
J Asson
Advisor

Re: Issues with queues on SMTP


Sorry - I thought I had pasted the version info but see it did not stick - try again

The copy dated 11 Dec 2008 seems odd !



EMSMCC $ dir/date SYS$LIBRARY:TCPIP$SMTP_MAILSHR/DATE

Directory SYS$SYSROOT:[SYSLIB]

TCPIP$SMTP_MAILSHR.EXE;4 11-DEC-2008 19:13:36.16

Total of 1 file.

Directory SYS$COMMON:[SYSLIB]

TCPIP$SMTP_MAILSHR.EXE;1 5-APR-2004 10:31:41.05

Total of 1 file.

Grand total of 2 directories, 2 files.


EMSMCC $ dir/date sys$system:tcpip$smtp_symbiont/date

Directory SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]

TCPIP$SMTP_SYMBIONT.EXE;1
5-APR-2004 10:31:42.90


TCPIP$SMTP_MAILSHR;4 V5.4-15 18-SEP-2003 SYS$SYSROOT:[SYSLIB]

TCPIP$SMTP_SYMBIONT;1 V5.4-15D 5-APR-2004 SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]




Total of 1 file.
EMSMCC $
EMSMCC $ tcpip sh ver/all

HP TCP/IP Services for OpenVMS Alpha Version V5.4 - ECO 2
on a AlphaStation DS10 617 MHz running OpenVMS V7.3-2

Image name Image ID Link Date Image location

Core Environment:
TCPIP$ACCESS_SHR;1 V5.4-15B 13-MAY-2004 SYS$COMMON:[SYSLIB]
TCPIP$BGDRIVER;1 V5.4-15V 24-MAY-2004 SYS$COMMON:[SYS$LDR]
TCPIP$GATED;1 V5.4-15 18-SEP-2003 SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]
TCPIP$INETACP;1 V5.4-15V 24-MAY-2004 SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]
TCPIP$INETDRIVER;1 V5.4-15D 24-MAY-2004 SYS$COMMON:[SYS$LDR]
TCPIP$INTERNET_SERVICES;1 V5.4-15V 24-MAY-2004 SYS$COMMON:[SYS$LDR]
TCPIP$IPC_SHR;1 V5.4-15D 10-MAY-2004 SYS$COMMON:[SYSLIB]
TCPIP$MSG;1 V5.4-15 18-SEP-2003 SYS$COMMON:[SYSMSG]
TCPIP$PING;1 V5.4-15C 20-FEB-2004 SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]
TCPIP$ROUTED;1 V5.4-15 18-SEP-2003 SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]
TCPIP$PROXY_SERVICES;1 V5.4-15 18-SEP-2003 SYS$COMMON:[SYS$LDR]
TCPIP$SDA;1 V5.4-15 18-SEP-2003 SYS$COMMON:[SYSLIB]
TCPIP$TCPDUMP;1 V5.4-15A 14-MAY-2004 SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]
TCPIP$TRACE;1 V5.4-15 18-SEP-2003 SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]
TCPIP$UCP;1 V5.4-15F 4-MAY-2004 SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]
TCPIP$VERSIONS;1 V5.4-15I 24-MAY-2004 SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]

Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol (DHCP):
TCPIP$DHCP_BPASCIITODBMOD;1
V5.4-15 18-SEP-2003 SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]
TCPIP$DHCP_BPISAMTOASCII;1 V5.4-15 18-SEP-2003 SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]
TCPIP$DHCP_CLIENT;1 V5.4-15 18-SEP-2003 SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]
TCPIP$DHCP_CLIENT_CONF;1 V5.4-15 18-SEP-2003 SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]
TCPIP$DHCP_CLIENT_SHOWDHC;1
V5.4-15 18-SEP-2003 SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]
TCPIP$DHCP_DBDUMP;1 V5.4-15 18-SEP-2003 SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]
TCPIP$DHCP_DBMODIFY;1 V5.4-15 18-SEP-2003 SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]
TCPIP$DHCP_DBREGISTER;1 V5.4-15 18-SEP-2003 SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]
TCPIP$DHCP_DBSHOW;1 V5.4-15 18-SEP-2003 SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]
TCPIP$DHCP_GUI;1 V5.4-15 18-SEP-2003 SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]
TCPIP$DHCP_SERVER;1 V5.4-15 18-SEP-2003 SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]
TCPIP$DHCP_SHOWDBS;1 V5.4-15 18-SEP-2003 SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]
TCPIP$DHCP_SIGNAL;1 V5.4-15 18-SEP-2003 SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]

failSAFE IP:
TCPIP$FAILSAFE;1 V5.4-15B 3-JUN-2004 SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]

File Transfer Protocol (FTP):
TCPIP$FTP_CHILD;1 V5.4-15E 11-MAR-2004 SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]
TCPIP$FTP_CLIENT;1 V5.4-15E 14-MAY-2004 SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]
TCPIP$FTP_SERVER;1 V5.4-15E 11-MAR-2004 SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]
TCPIP$TFTP;1 V5.4-15 18-SEP-2003 SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]

Installation Verification Programs:
TCPIP$RPCIVP_CLIENT;1 V5.4-15 18-SEP-2003 SYS$COMMON:[SYSTEST.T
CPIP]
TCPIP$RPCIVP_SERVER;1 V5.4-15 18-SEP-2003 SYS$COMMON:[SYSTEST.T
CPIP]
TCPIP$SNMPIVP;1 V5.4-15 18-SEP-2003 SYS$COMMON:[SYSTEST.T
CPIP]

Mail:
TCPIP$IMAP_SERVER;1 V5.4-15 18-SEP-2003 SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]
TCPIP$IMAP_STOP;1 V5.4-15 18-SEP-2003 SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]
TCPIP$POP_SERVER;1 V5.4-15 18-SEP-2003 SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]
TCPIP$SMTP_MAILSHR;4 V5.4-15 18-SEP-2003 SYS$SYSROOT:[SYSLIB]
TCPIP$SMTP_PARSESHR_TV;1 V5.4-15B 29-JAN-2004 SYS$COMMON:[SYSLIB]
TCPIP$SMTP_RECEIVER;1 V5.4-15D 5-APR-2004 SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]
TCPIP$SMTP_SFF;1 V5.4-15D 5-APR-2004 SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]
TCPIP$SMTP_SYMBIONT;1 V5.4-15D 5-APR-2004 SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]
TCPIP$UUDECODE;1 V5.4-15B 29-JAN-2004 SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]
TCPIP$UUENCODE;1 V5.4-15B 29-JAN-2004 SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]

Name Services:
TCPIP$BIND-CHECKCONF;1 V5.4-15 18-SEP-2003 SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]
TCPIP$BIND-CHECKZONE;1 V5.4-15 18-SEP-2003 SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]
TCPIP$BIND_SERVER;1 V5.4-15B 18-MAR-2004 SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]
TCPIP$DIG;1 V5.4-15 18-SEP-2003 SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]
TCPIP$DNSSEC-KEYGEN;1 V5.4-15 18-SEP-2003 SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]
TCPIP$DNSSEC-MAKEKEYSET;1 V5.4-15 18-SEP-2003 SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]
TCPIP$DNSSEC-SIGNKEY;1 V5.4-15 18-SEP-2003 SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]
TCPIP$DNSSEC-SIGNZONE;1 V5.4-15 18-SEP-2003 SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]
TCPIP$HOST;1 V5.4-15 18-SEP-2003 SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]
TCPIP$LBROKER;1 V5.4-15 18-SEP-2003 SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]
TCPIP$METRIC;1 V5.4-15 18-SEP-2003 SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]
TCPIP$METRICVIEW;1 V5.4-15 18-SEP-2003 SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]
TCPIP$NSUPDATE;1 V5.4-15 18-SEP-2003 SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]
TCPIP$RNDC-CONFGEN;1 V5.4-15 18-SEP-2003 SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]
TCPIP$RNDC;1 V5.4-15 18-SEP-2003 SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]

Network File System:
TCPIP$CFS_SHR;1 V5.4-15H 22-FEB-2004 SYS$COMMON:[SYSLIB]
TCPIP$DNFSACP;1 V5.4-15 18-SEP-2003 SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]
TCPIP$DNFSDRIVER;1 V5.4-15 18-SEP-2003 SYS$COMMON:[SYS$LDR]
TCPIP$DNFS_MOUNT_SHR;1 V5.4-15 18-SEP-2003 SYS$COMMON:[SYSLIB]
TCPIP$LOCKD;1 V5.4-15 18-SEP-2003 SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]
TCPIP$MOUNTD;1 V5.4-15C 23-APR-2004 SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]
TCPIP$NFS_SERVER;1 V5.4-15B 22-FEB-2004 SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]
TCPIP$NFS_SERVICES;1 V5.4-15B 22-FEB-2004 SYS$COMMON:[SYS$LDR]
TCPIP$NFSSTAT;1 V5.4-15B 22-FEB-2004 SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]
TCPIP$PCNFSD;1 V5.4-15 18-SEP-2003 SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]
TCPIP$STATD;1 V5.4-15 18-SEP-2003 SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]

Network Management:
TCPIP$ESNMP_SERVER;1 V5.4-15 18-SEP-2003 SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]
TCPIP$ESNMP_SHR;1 V5.4-15 18-SEP-2003 SYS$COMMON:[SYSLIB]
TCPIP$HR_MIB;1 V5.4-15 18-SEP-2003 SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]
TCPIP$MIBCOMP;1 V5.4-15 18-SEP-2003 SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]
TCPIP$MOSY;1 V5.4-15 18-SEP-2003 SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]
TCPIP$OS_MIBS;1 V5.4-15 18-SEP-2003 SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]
TCPIP$SNMPI;1 V5.4-15 18-SEP-2003 SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]
TCPIP$SNMP_REQUEST;1 V5.4-15 18-SEP-2003 SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]
TCPIP$SNMP_TRAPRCV;1 V5.4-15 18-SEP-2003 SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]
TCPIP$SNMP_TRAPSND;1 V5.4-15 18-SEP-2003 SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]

Network Time Protocol (NTP):
TCPIP$NTP;1 V5.4-15D 24-MAR-2004 SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]
TCPIP$NTPDATE;1 V5.4-15D 24-MAR-2004 SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]
TCPIP$NTPDC;1 V5.4-15D 24-MAR-2004 SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]
TCPIP$NTPQ;1 V5.4-15D 24-MAR-2004 SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]
TCPIP$NTPTRACE;1 V5.4-15D 24-MAR-2004 SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]
TCPIP$NTP_RES_CHILD;1 V5.4-15D 24-MAR-2004 SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]
TCPIP$NTP-GENKEYS;1 V5.4-15D 24-MAR-2004 SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]

Printing Services:
TCPIP$LPD_RCV;1 V5.4-15C 22-FEB-2004 SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]
TCPIP$LPD_SHR;1 V5.4-15C 22-FEB-2004 SYS$COMMON:[SYSLIB]
TCPIP$LPD_SMB;1 V5.4-15C 22-FEB-2004 SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]
TCPIP$LPD_UTILITIES;1 V5.4-15C 22-FEB-2004 SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]
TCPIP$LPQ;1 V5.4-15C 22-FEB-2004 SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]
TCPIP$LPRM;1 V5.4-15C 22-FEB-2004 SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]
TCPIP$LPRSETUP;1 V5.4-15C 22-FEB-2004 SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]
TCPIP$TELNETSYM;1 V5.4-15C 22-FEB-2004 SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]

PWIP:
PWIP$SDA;1 V5.4-15G 16-APR-2004 SYS$COMMON:[SYSLIB]
TCPIP$PWIPACP;1 V5.4-15G 16-APR-2004 SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]
TCPIP$PWIPDRIVER;1 V5.4-15G 16-APR-2004 SYS$COMMON:[SYS$LDR]
TCPIP$PWIPSHUT;1 V5.4-15G 16-APR-2004 SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]

Remote Commands:
TCPIP$RCP;1 V5.4-15 18-SEP-2003 SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]
TCPIP$RLOGIN;1 V5.4-15 18-SEP-2003 SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]
TCPIP$RMT;1 V5.4-15 18-SEP-2003 SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]
TCPIP$RSH;1 V5.4-15 18-SEP-2003 SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]

Remote Procedure Call:
TCPIP$PORTMAPPER;1 V5.4-15 18-SEP-2003 SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]
TCPIP$RPCGEN;1 V5.4-15 18-SEP-2003 SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]
TCPIP$RPCINFO;1 V5.4-15 18-SEP-2003 SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]
TCPIP$RPCXDR_SHR;1 V5.4-15 18-SEP-2003 SYS$COMMON:[SYSLIB]

Secure Shell:
TCPIP$SSH_SCP2;1 V5.4-15E 18-MAY-2004 SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]
TCPIP$SSH_SFTP-SERVER2;1 V5.4-15E 18-MAY-2004 SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]
TCPIP$SSH_SFTP2;1 V5.4-15E 18-MAY-2004 SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]
TCPIP$SSH_SSH-ADD2;1 V5.4-15E 18-MAY-2004 SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]
TCPIP$SSH_SSH-AGENT2;1 V5.4-15E 18-MAY-2004 SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]
TCPIP$SSH_SSH-KEYGEN2;1 V5.4-15E 18-MAY-2004 SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]
TCPIP$SSH_SSH-SIGNER2;1 V5.4-15E 18-MAY-2004 SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]
TCPIP$SSH_SSH2;1 V5.4-15E 18-MAY-2004 SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]
TCPIP$SSH_SSHD2;1 V5.4-15E 18-MAY-2004 SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]

Telnet:
TCPIP$TELNET;1 V5.4-15B 20-FEB-2004 SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]
TCPIP$TNDRIVER;1 V5.4-15D 8-MAR-2004 SYS$COMMON:[SYS$LDR]

Utility Images:
TCPIP$BOOTP;1 V5.4-15 18-SEP-2003 SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]
TCPIP$FINGER;1 V5.4-15 18-SEP-2003 SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]
TCPIP$FINGER_SERVER;1 V5.4-15 18-SEP-2003 SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]

X-Terminal Display Manager (XDM):
TCPIP$XDM;1 V5.4-15 18-SEP-2003 SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]
TCPIP$XDMW;1 V5.4-15 18-SEP-2003 SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]
Hakan Zanderau ( Anders
Trusted Contributor

Re: Issues with queues on SMTP

It looks like you have a bogey in SYS$SYSROOT:[SYSLIB].......

You have two versions of TCPIP$SMTP_MAILSHR.EXE. The file in SYS$SYSROOT has a date from 2008.

Try to rename SYS$SYSROOT:[SYSLIB]TCPIP$SMTP_MAILSHR.EXE to something else and try to start SMTP again.

Hakan
Don't make it worse by guessing.........
Volker Halle
Honored Contributor

Re: Issues with queues on SMTP

There is a version of TCPIP$SMTP_MAILSHR.EXE in SYS$SPECIFIC:[SYSLIB] - it does NOT belong there and it's most likely the reason for your problem.

The data of the one in SYS$COMMON:[SYSLIB] at least exactly matches the date of TCPIP$SMTP_SYMBIONT

As a quick check, just rename the one in SYS$SPECIFIC and try MC TCPIP$SMTP_SYMBIONT. If you don't get the %IMGACT-F-SYMVECMIS error, try to start SMTP again.

Volker.
Volker Halle
Honored Contributor

Re: Issues with queues on SMTP

According to the TCPIP V5.4 ECO 2 release notes:

ECO D 5-APR-2004 Alpha

Problem...

Deliverables:

TCPIP$SMTP_MAILSHR.EXE V5.4-15D

THIS is the correct one, which matches your TCPIP$SMTP_SYMBIONT.EXE. Your bad TCPIP$SMTP_MAILSHR.EXE is V5.4-15 !

Volker.

Volker.
J Asson
Advisor

Re: Issues with queues on SMTP


Bad file

Image Identification Information

image name: "TCPIP$SMTP_MAILSHR"
image file identification: "V5.4-15"
image file build identification: ""
link date/time: 18-SEP-2003 21:58:15.30
linker identification: "A13-02"


After rename process and stop/start



EMSMCC $ set def sys$specific:[syslib]

EMSMCC $ dir/date *tcpip*

Directory SYS$SPECIFIC:[SYSLIB]

TCPIP$SMTP_MAILSHR.EXE;1
11-DEC-2008 19:13:36.16

Total of 1 file.

EMSMCC $ rename tcpip$smtp_mailshr.exe dud_tcpip$smtp_mailshr.exe


EMSMCC $ @sys$startup:tcpip$smtp_shutdown
%TCPIP-I-INFO, service disabled
%TCPIP-I-INFO, logical names deleted
%TCPIP-I-INFO, image SYS$SHARE:TCPIP$SMTP_PARSESHR_TV.EXE deinstalled
%TCPIP-I-INFO, image SYS$SHARE:TCPIP$SMTP_MAILSHR.EXE deinstalled
%TCPIP-I-INFO, image SYS$SYSTEM:TCPIP$SMTP_RECEIVER.EXE deinstalled
%TCPIP-I-INFO, service queues stopped
%TCPIP-S-SHUTDONE, TCPIP$SMTP shutdown completed



EMSMCC $ @sys$startup:tcpip$smtp_startup
%TCPIP-I-INFO, image SYS$SHARE:TCPIP$SMTP_MAILSHR.EXE installed
%TCPIP-I-INFO, image SYS$SHARE:TCPIP$SMTP_PARSESHR_TV.EXE installed
%TCPIP-I-INFO, image SYS$SYSTEM:TCPIP$SMTP_RECEIVER.EXE installed
%TCPIP-I-INFO, logical names created
%TCPIP-I-INFO, service queues started
%TCPIP-I-INFO, service enabled
%TCPIP-S-STARTDONE, TCPIP$SMTP startup completed
EMSMCC $

EMSMCC $ MCR TCPIP$SMTP_SYMBIONT
%SYSTEM-F-IVLOGNAM, invalid logical name
EMSMCC $


And yes - email is working great now !

Many thanks to all

John Asson