Install 64 bit OS on DL380 G5 x86??

[jag2050]

Hi,

We have ProLiant DL380 G5 Quad Core Intel Xeon /3.00GHz,Hardware: x86 Family 6 Model 23 Stepping 6 AT/AT COMPATIBLE - Software: Windows Version 5.2...

IS it possible to install win server 2008 web Edition R2 on this...

[JKytsi]

Yes. Don't get fooled about the x86 mark, it's just saying the architechture of the HW. Nothing related to which OS it will support.

[JKytsi]

And as a new user to forums. You shoul start assigning points to answers that help YOU.

[jag2050]

Thanks for your reply,

So, Can I install win 2008 Web edition R2 on this server?, but minimum requirement is to have 64 bit hardware?

[TTr]

The hardware is 64bit.

Check out the quickspecs for supported OSes.

http://h18004.www1.hp.com/products/quickspecs/12477_div/12477_div.html

Under the "Standard features" section and the "Operating Systems and Virtualization Software Support for ProLiant Servers" subsection.

In that section there is a URL which directs you to all the OSes supported for this and other prolian servers.

http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/DriverDownload.jsp?prodNameId=3288134〈=en&cc=us&prodTypeId=15351&prodSeriesId=1121516&taskId=135

[jag2050]

Thanks TTr,

I checked these pages, But I am unable to confirm my question again.. I think I can't install 64bit OS in this hardware but there is no confirmation on the links..

Can I??

[TTr]

In the last URL above, this does not do it?

Debian GNU/Linux 4.0 (AMD64/EM64T)
Microsoft Windows Server 2003 for 64-bit Extended Systems
Microsoft Windows Server 2008 x64
Red Hat Enterprise Linux 5 Server (x86-64)

and others...

[jag2050]

Yup..so I can't install..

how hard it was to find NO..

[jag2050]

10 points

[TTr]

Why do you keep saying you "can't install"?

The list of OSes I wrote in my previous reply is to show you that 64bit OSes are being installed on this server.

Win Server 2008 R2 is 64bit only and is included in the list of OSes for this server hardware as well. Did you look at the URL?

» Microsoft Windows 2000
» Microsoft Windows Server 2003
» Microsoft Windows Server 2003 for 64-bit Extended Systems
» Microsoft Windows Server 2008 Essential Business
» Microsoft Windows Server 2008 R2
» Microsoft Windows Server 2008 Small Business
» Microsoft Windows Server 2008 W32
» Microsoft Windows Server 2008 x64

[jag2050]

Oh ooopss...beg your pardon...

But I beleive DL380 G5 we have 2 different servers is with 64 bit hardware which is x64 and 2nd is x86 which I have?

Does it make any sense..or I am missing the point here..

[TTr]

As the first respondent said you are confusing the x86 indication with the 64-bit one.

(By the way it is 64-bit NOT x64)

The x86 refers to the Intel CPU architecture all the way from the first 8086 CPU in 1980s to the 80286, 80386, 80486, Pentiums etc.

The x86 architecture is to distinguish the hardware from other CPU architectures such as AMD, Itanium, SPARC, RISC etc.

Some OSes, such as the LINUX ones, as you can see in the URL have different build releases for x86 HW and for AMD hardware

The microsoft OSes do not. The same windows release will install in x86 (Intel CPU) server and in an AMD (AMD CPU) server. That's why you only one windows version for each release.

[TTr]

Incidentally,

the DL380 G5 is x86 (Intel CPU)

the DL385 G5 is AMD (AMD CPU)

The same windows relase (same DVD) would install in both of them. But if you wanted to install Red Hat Linux 5 on them you would use different RH 5 releases (different DVD's)

> Nov 25, 2009 15:14:29 GMT N/A: Question Author

> 10 points

How about it?

[jag2050]

Thanks for the explanation Ttr,

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2008/en/us/system-requirements.aspx

Have/had you check this link, which is saying minimu requiremnt is x64 processor..where DL380 G5 is with x86 processor.

[Stephen Kebbell]

As Jarkko already said, don't be fooled about the x86
There are also 64-bit versions of Windows which run on Itanium processors (IA-64 instead of x64), which are in HP Integrity Servers.
The DL380 G5 can run 64-bit (x64) or 32-bit OS (x86).
And as TTr already said, Win2008-R2 is only available as 64-bit (x64). This support matrix:
http://h71028.www7.hp.com/enterprise/us/en/servers/ws-servers-2008-r2.html
says Web R2 is suppored on DL380 G5. This must be valid for all DL380 G5 models.

[TTr]

On the bottom of that same page it is "32-bit, 64-bit and Itanium" which is not accurate either beacuse "Itanium" is a CPU platform not a CPU data width (WORD size) and it is always 64-bit.

Leave it to microsoft to confuse things.

Anyway, as long as you understand the context of each term...

[jag2050]

Thanks Stephen/TTR ..

Its all making sense now.. Thanks alot all.

[jag2050]

Hi Guys,

Sorry to nudge you guys again..

Can I find this link.
http://h71028.www7.hp.com/enterprise/us/en/servers/ws-servers-2008-r2.html

DL 360 G4 also...?

[TTr]

There is a time gap between the DL360 G4 and the windows server 2008 R2. The G4 went out of support by the time the Win2008R2 came out. Because of that, officially HP does not support Win2008R2 on the DL360 G4.

Unofficially, win2008R2 might install on the DL360G4 but you will not find drivers for some or all of the hardware components. Most people in cases like this they use drivers from similar releases of windows.

So you are on your own on this. If Win2008 R2 isntalls fine, try some of the win2003 64-bit drivers on this page

http://h71028.www7.hp.com/enterprise/cache/457153-0-0-0-121.html

(ahhh, again with the x64!)

[jag2050]

Thanks mate.

[TTr]

This is how you thank in the forum

http://forums11.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/helptips.do?#33

What did you think I meant earlier with

> > Nov 25, 2009 15:14:29 GMT N/A: Question Author

> > 10 points

> How about it?