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Re: C3000 workstation

 
Jerry Friend_1
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C3000 workstation

I would like to make a clean installation of HPUX 11.0 on this workstation, When I try to install from the CDROM /10/0/14/0 an IDE device, I get an error msg that reads "Not a valid install device"

I am not a unix person, please advise. I can provide additional info.
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Mel Burslan
Honored Contributor

Re: C3000 workstation

when you are prompted for pressing any key within 10 seconds to interrup boot process, do so and drop to the boot menu.

at this menu, type , SEARCH and hit enter, while your coreOS cd is in your CD drive, and see if it returns your CD drive as a bootable device. If not, I am not sure what to tell you.

if it returns it as a bootable device, proceed with

boot P(whatever_number)
then answer NO to "interact with IPL ?" question.

good luck
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Jerry Friend_1
Frequent Advisor

Re: C3000 workstation

Right, I did that, It booted into what looked like an installation, and then it came to a screen that asked me to select a source for the installation from an index that it created, I selected the index key for the CDROM and it gives me that error.
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Mel Burslan
Honored Contributor

Re: C3000 workstation

if you see this as a bootable device on the index page that SEARCH command creates, it means it is usable as a boot device. The error messages are not actual reflections of their full meaning, so I'll take the message with a grain of salt for the time being.

Are you sure the CD in the drawer is core OS CD and it still is good ? i.e., no scratches or whatsoever ? Can you getyour hands on another one and try it ?
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Jerry Friend_1
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Re: C3000 workstation

I tried another cd, even though the one I origninally used looks better than this one and it appears to be working.

Thanks.
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Jerry Friend_1
Frequent Advisor

Re: C3000 workstation

darn it, it will not allow me to choose the media options, can I use a public Ignite server? Is there a list of IP addresses?
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Mel Burslan
Honored Contributor

Re: C3000 workstation

There is no such thing as public ignite server. Every company has one or more depending on their data center size. And if it is a small shop there may not be any, in which case you are stuck with doing your installations from CDs or tape. When you said it does not give you any media options, what do you mean ? It is not letting you install it from the CD itself ?
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Jerry Friend_1
Frequent Advisor

Re: C3000 workstation

I am not sure what is going on, it booted like it was installing from the CD, but it might not be...

I chose English US as the language option and then it goes to a screen that says

USER INTERFACE AND MEDIA OPTIONS

when I try to change it from Ignite-UX server based install to one of the media options it displays

Cannot switch to a local media source - it is not a complete Ignite-UX source. You will need to use an Ignite-UX server.

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Mel Burslan
Honored Contributor

Re: C3000 workstation

in which case you may have boot from a support cd instead of a core-OS cd. Make sure you have a good Core-OS cd, actually CDs as in plural, at hand, otherwise you will not be able to proceed any further. Unless this a machine grafted from ebay, with no support contract, I would suggest contacting HP to get a new copy of the installation media set as it looks like yours have major problems.
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Jerry Friend_1
Frequent Advisor

Re: C3000 workstation

I know that my CD is CORE OS WITH ADDITIONAL CORE ENHANCEMENTS ENGLISH from Sept 2003,

HP part 5012-7884

and I don't think there is anything wrong with it.

I think I am just ignorant, and might not be explaining the problem.

This machine is not supported, but I do have support on our server and software support as well.

I just bought this workstation to setup for our DBA as a test environment. It has HPUX 11.0 installed but the 64bit version and I need to blow away that installation and install 32bit for her test environment.

The problem is I am clueless, and not getting anywhere. Thanks for trying to help
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Jerry Friend_1
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Re: C3000 workstation

I also have the HPUX 11.0 install/update/recovery CD from Dec 2001 listed as core os with additional core enhancements english, part # 5012-0018 which also looks fine.

I am not sure why it's not booting from the CD maybe the device isn't working properly???
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Cheryl Griffin
Honored Contributor

Re: C3000 workstation

According to this matrix, the C3000 is a 64-bit machine only.
http://www.hp.com/workstations/risc/standard/operating/support_matrix/update.html
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Mel Burslan
Honored Contributor

Re: C3000 workstation

well, in that case, if you are sure you have a good media set, after you boot from core-os cd, you should see something like characted based menu system with 3 options. One of them says "Install HP-UX" which is the option you want. If you are not getting this menu, there certainly is something wrong with your either CD Drive or the boot cd itself. If you have support, this should not be a problem to order another set of CDs.
Another suggestion, if you have a tape drive, you can create a bootable backup tape, a.k.a., ignite image, from anohter c3000, and use that tape to ignite start this one.
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Jerry Friend_1
Frequent Advisor

Re: C3000 workstation

Is it possible that the CDROM is not being mounted, so it can't boot from it? Anyone got any advice?
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Mel Burslan
Honored Contributor

Re: C3000 workstation

at boot time, mounting is not an issue. Mount is an application that runs on hpux. Your machine does not have hpux loaded when you power it up from cold. All it is is hardware communications and as long as your cd gets listed when you do a SEARCH, it means that the hardware comm.s is in good shape.

Also, I'd apy attention to what Cheryl said a little above. If your only purpose is to get a 32 bit work station for your dba, you may be wasting your effort.
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Jerry Friend_1
Frequent Advisor

Re: C3000 workstation

Thanks for pointing that out Cheryl... I had a J2240 machine to setup for her originally but it looks like one of the processors has a bad (squealing) fan! M

Maybe I need to look for another processor or see if I can fix it.

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Florian Heigl (new acc)
Honored Contributor

Re: C3000 workstation

(small side note: there *are* public ignite servers, but to my knowledge none contain golden images)
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Jerry Friend_1
Frequent Advisor

Re: C3000 workstation

I am going to go back to trying to repair the J2240, thanks to Cheryl's sharp observation...

Mel, I appreciate your efforts too.. Points assigned
Its not what you know that counts but, your willingness to learn.
Jerry Friend_1
Frequent Advisor

Re: C3000 workstation

I managed to identify the bad fan, I am going to look for parts. I need to get the DBA a 32bit test environment ASAP.

I will have to tinker around with the C3000 later to figure out why I can't install from local media.
Its not what you know that counts but, your willingness to learn.