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01-28-2008 09:24 AM
01-28-2008 09:24 AM
MSL2024 Tape Library
We recetnly install this tape library on a ES40's. This library is connect to the SAN switch that goes with the Fibre Channel disk subsystem. I know with the system disk, we had to do a WWIDMGR setup to see the disks, do we need to do the same with these tape drives?
After the site had a downtime, they rebooted and they were not able to see the tape drives. They had to do an IO Find, then an IO Auto.
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01-28-2008 10:46 AM
01-28-2008 10:46 AM
Re: MSL2024 Tape Library
No you don't do WWIDMGR for the tape drives. The IO FIND and IO AUTO was sufficient.
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01-28-2008 12:09 PM
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01-28-2008 12:55 PM
01-28-2008 12:55 PM
Re: MSL2024 Tape Library
The information is stored in SYS$SYSTEM:SYS$DEVICES.DAT and unless you delete that file the information should remain through reboots.
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01-28-2008 12:57 PM
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01-28-2008 01:19 PM
01-28-2008 01:19 PM
Re: MSL2024 Tape Library
Are you up to date with your patches, especially FIBRE-SCSI?
Please provide hardware models and OS versions. Can you also attach the file SYS$SYSTEM:SYS$DEVICES.DAT (it's a text file)?
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01-28-2008 01:34 PM
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01-28-2008 01:38 PM
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01-28-2008 03:49 PM
01-28-2008 03:49 PM
Re: MSL2024 Tape Library
The two types of system effected at ES40's and As4100. They are both operating at OpenVMS 7.3-2 with
DEC AXPVMSVMS732_FIBRE_SCSI V11.0.
Attached is the Sys$devices.dat file. The new tape drives are referenced in the file, but they did not get setup after the reboot.
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01-29-2008 05:08 AM
01-29-2008 05:08 AM
Re: MSL2024 Tape Library
How may reboots did you do wherein the tape drives didn't show up after the reboot? I have a feeling it's just once (for each system). Have you tested by rebooting again?
My gut feeling is that the id's on tape library changed somehow and so when VMS booted up it didn't configure the tape drives. That's just a guess though. I strongly suggest trying another reboot with logging of the startup (enable this through sysman startup).
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01-29-2008 05:16 AM
01-29-2008 05:16 AM
Re: MSL2024 Tape Library
please have a look at the various SYSMAN IO *_WWID commands related to FC tapes.
Try SYSMAN> IO LIST_WWID to find out, if any FC tape WWIDs on your SAN have not yet been configured by OpenVMS.
Volker.
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01-29-2008 07:25 AM
01-29-2008 07:25 AM
Re: MSL2024 Tape Library
Mc Sysman
sysman> set e/c
sysman> io find_wwid
syman> io auto
sysman> exit
$ show dev mg/full
We noted that 2 devices were created. $2$mga0 and $2$mga1
A few day later the site had to shutdown the nodes. They did not have to power off anything. They then rebooted the nodes, and after the reboot they tried to schedule a tape backup and the tape drives were no longer available. The site then did the Show dev mg/full and the two device, $2$mga0 and $2$mga1 did not list. The site then went through the SYSMAN steps again and the devices were then made available.
They should not have to do the SYSMAN steps everytime they perform a system shutdown and reboot. So, what needs to be done to prevent this from happening?
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01-29-2008 07:35 AM
01-29-2008 07:35 AM
Re: MSL2024 Tape Library
it should work the way you're expecting it to work. But apparently, it hasn't.
Do the systems do a full auto-configure during startup (check SYCONFIG.COM) ? Any error messages during the last startup ?
If the problem happens again, try a SYSMAN IO AUTO first. Does it solve the problem ?
Volker.
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01-29-2008 03:46 PM
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01-30-2008 05:23 AM
01-30-2008 05:23 AM
Re: MSL2024 Tape Library
Please do a SYSMAN IO LIST and make sure there are no WWIDs listed. If that is the case, I strongly feel that your tape drives will show up on your next reboot.
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01-30-2008 05:43 AM
01-30-2008 05:43 AM
Re: MSL2024 Tape Library
I asked you to look into SYCONFIG.COM as this would be a supported method to skip auto-configuration during startup and later manually include SYSMAN IO commands, which could exclude certain type of devices.
Your SYCONFIG.COM does not contain such commands.
Volker.
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01-30-2008 07:32 AM
01-30-2008 07:32 AM
Re: MSL2024 Tape Library
SYSMAN> io list
%SYSMAN-I-OUTPUT, command execution on node TRIPAA
On port _PGA0:, the following tape WWIDs are not yet configured:
Target 3, LUN 1, HP MSL G3 Series
WWID=02000008:5001-10A0-008A-BC98
Target 8, LUN 1, HP MSL G3 Series
WWID=02000008:5001-10A0-008A-BB98
On port _PGB0:, the following tape WWIDs are not yet configured:
Target 3, LUN 1, HP MSL G3 Series
WWID=02000008:5001-10A0-008A-BC98
Target 8, LUN 1, HP MSL G3 Series
WWID=02000008:5001-10A0-008A-BB98
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01-30-2008 10:06 AM
01-30-2008 10:06 AM
Re: MSL2024 Tape Library
I have, however, come up with a brilliantly plausible explanation! You used SYSMAN commands set e/c... io find...io auto...
are your two systems clustered? what account (username) did you use when you did the sysman commands? Was that a privileged account? Did you enable privileges (sysman do set proc/priv=all) before doing the io find and io auto? Please also do a SYSMAN IO LIST on the other system and post the output. I hope this is your problem and not something else.
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01-30-2008 02:36 PM
01-30-2008 02:36 PM
Re: MSL2024 Tape Library
Keep in mind that we are connecting the MSL2024 to a Fibre Channel Switch.
NODE A:
SYSMAN> io list
%SYSMAN-I-OUTPUT, command execution on node TRIPAA
On port _PGA0:, the following tape WWIDs are not yet configured:
Target 3, LUN 1, HP MSL G3 Series
WWID=02000008:5001-10A0-008A-BC98
Target 8, LUN 1, HP MSL G3 Series
WWID=02000008:5001-10A0-008A-BB98
On port _PGB0:, the following tape WWIDs are not yet configured:
Target 3, LUN 1, HP MSL G3 Series
WWID=02000008:5001-10A0-008A-BC98
Target 8, LUN 1, HP MSL G3 Series
WWID=02000008:5001-10A0-008A-BB98
NODE B:
SYSMAN> io list
%SYSMAN-I-OUTPUT, command execution on node TRIPAB
On port _PGB0:, the following tape WWIDs are not yet configured:
Target 3, LUN 1, HP MSL G3 Series
WWID=02000008:5001-10A0-008A-BC98
Target 9, LUN 1, HP MSL G3 Series
WWID=02000008:5001-10A0-008A-BB98
On port _PGA0:, the following tape WWIDs are not yet configured:
Target 3, LUN 1, HP MSL G3 Series
WWID=02000008:5001-10A0-008A-BC98
Target 9, LUN 1, HP MSL G3 Series
WWID=02000008:5001-10A0-008A-BB98
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02-01-2008 08:59 AM
02-01-2008 08:59 AM
Re: MSL2024 Tape Library
Does anyone elase have some suggestion as to why the tape drives are nolonger reachable after a system reboot?
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02-01-2008 10:00 AM
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