Sending Mail Error

[mkayhan]

Hello,

When I want to send mail to an another user ( for example I am online(my username) and I want to send mail to myself.

Mail> send
To: online
Subj: hello
Enter your message below. Press CTRL/Z when complete, or CTRL/C to quit:
Hello!
CTRL+Z

then I got this message ;

%MAIL-E-SENDERR, error sending to user ONLINE
-MAIL-E-OPENOUT, error opening USER$DISK:[ERDEMIR_VMS]MAIL.MAI as output
-SYSTEM-F-IVDEVNAM, invalid device name

And when I searh there is no queue which name is sys$print. Do you think is it a problem? and what do u think? How Can I solve this.

Thanks.

[Craig A]

Is USER$DISK: a valid device (or logical name)

What does the UAF record for ONLINE look like?

Craig

[mkayhan]

"USER$DISK" = "USER_DISK:[USER.]"
"USER_DISK" = "$1$DGA1:"

it is logical name and ONLINE is an administrator.it has all privileges.

[Joseph Huber_1]

>>
"USER$DISK" = "USER_DISK:[USER.]"
"USER_DISK" = "$1$DGA1:"
<<

User disk is a concealed logical name consisting of another logical name.
This works indeed if the concealed logical is not TERMINAL.
And also the mode (/EXEC ?) of the l;ogical may be important for MAIL, while a DIR USER$DISK:[ERDEMIR_VMS] may succeed.

Show the the result of show logical/full of the two USER* logicals.

[Joseph Huber_1]

And the existance of a queue sys$print is irrelevant for mail, it just means You have to add the /QUEUE to every PRINT command, or set the default queue via SET QUEUE in MAIL>

And also in VMS general there is no requirement for a sys$print queue: it is just the default queue for commands like PRINT, SUBMIT/PRINT etc.
For locations with many distributed printers it may even be better not to have sys$print, so every user has to explicitly specify a queue.

[mkayhan]

$ SHOW LOGICAL/FULL USER*

(LNM$PROCESS_TABLE) [kernel]
[no protection information]

(LNM$JOB_820D1200) [kernel] [shareable] [Quota=(3520,4096)]
[Protection=(RWCD,RWCD,,)] [Owner=[ERDEMIR_VMS]]

(LNM$GROUP_000100) [kernel] [shareable,group]
[Protection=(RWCD,R,R,)] [Owner=[100,*]]

(LNM$SYSTEM_TABLE) [kernel] [shareable,system]
[Protection=(RWC,RWC,R,R)] [Owner=[SYSTEM]]

"USER$DISK" [exec] = "USER_DISK:[USER.]" [concealed]
"USER_DISK" [super] = "$1$DGA1:"

(LNM$SYSCLUSTER_TABLE) [kernel] [shareable,system]
[Protection=(RWC,RWC,R,R)] [Owner=[SYSTEM]]

(DECW$LOGICAL_NAMES) [exec] [shareable]
[Protection=(RWCD,RWCD,R,R)] [Owner=[SYSTEM]]



i am starter at vms...I would be grateful if you tell me what I should do elaborately..

[The Brit]

Could you show the output from

$ dir USER$DISK:[ERDEMIR_VMS]

Dave

[The Brit]

Sorry, Ignore!!

Dave.

[Joseph Huber_1]

>>
"USER$DISK" [exec] = "USER_DISK:[USER.]" [concealed]
"USER_DISK" [super] = "$1$DGA1:"
<<

USER_DISK must as well be an /EXEC logical !

[The Brit]

Can you post the output from

MAIL> show all


and, is USER$DISK:[ERDEMIR_VMS] the login directory for user ONLINE?

Dave.

[mkayhan]

MAIL> show all
Your mail file directory is USER$DISK:[ERDEMIR_VMS].
%MAIL-E-OPENIN, error opening USER$DISK:[ERDEMIR_VMS]MAIL.MAI as input
-RMS-E-FNF, file not found
%MAIL-E-NOMSGS, no messages

You have not set a forwarding address.
You have not set a personal name.
Your editor is TPU.
CC prompting is disabled.
Automatic copies to yourself are disabled.
Automatic deleted message purge is enabled.
Your default print queue is SYS$PRINT.
You have not specified a default print form.
You have not specified a default signature file.


yes it is the login directory of online..

[mkayhan]

How can I make the USER_DISK an /EXEC logical ?

[Craig A]

Use /EXEC on the DEFINE/SYS or ASSIGN/SYS command.

But you will need SYSNAM or SYSPRV privilege.

Don't forget to fix it in the system startup, too.

Craig

[Joseph Huber_1]

DEFINE/SYSTEM/EXEC logical equivalence

See HELP DEFINE,
and maybe a thing at least once to read through the VMS manual "DCL dictionary" and "VMS users guide".
See the links to HP VMS docs on the OpenVMS furum main page (bottom).

[mkayhan]

I tried to make something. But I think I made some mistakes.

I did ;

$Define/sys/execute
_Log name: USER_DISK
_Equ name: $1$DGA1:

and something else...

then when I do

$show logical/full user*

(LNM$PROCESS_TABLE) [kernel]
[no protection information]

"USER$DISK" [exec] = "USER_DISK"
"USER_DISK" [super] = "$1$DGA1:"

(LNM$JOB_820E1EC0) [kernel] [shareable] [Quota=(3520,4096)]
[Protection=(RWCD,RWCD,,)] [Owner=[ERDEMIR_VMS]]

(LNM$GROUP_000100) [kernel] [shareable,group]
[Protection=(RWCD,R,R,)] [Owner=[100,*]]

(LNM$SYSTEM_TABLE) [kernel] [shareable,system]
[Protection=(RWC,RWC,R,R)] [Owner=[SYSTEM]]

"USER$DISK" [exec] = "USER_DISK"
"USER_DISK" [super] = "$1$DGA1:"

(LNM$SYSCLUSTER_TABLE) [kernel] [shareable,system]
[Protection=(RWC,RWC,R,R)] [Owner=[SYSTEM]]

(DECW$LOGICAL_NAMES) [exec] [shareable]
[Protection=(RWCD,RWCD,R,R)] [Owner=[SYSTEM]]




and when I logout and login again.. There is nothing under the (LNM$PROCESS_TABLE) ..

And the important problem.
$ dir
%DIRECT-E-OPENIN, error opening $1$DGA1:[ERDEMIR_VMS]*.*;* as input
-RMS-E-DNF, directory not found
-SYSTEM-W-NOSUCHFILE, no such file


I cannot reach. the name was changed but it should be USER$DISK:[ERDEMIR_VMS]

How can I change it again? It is so important:(

[mkayhan]

Okk I solved it. but still have mail problem...

[Joseph Huber_1]

You did NOT define user_disk in /EXECUTIVE mode,
probably ignored the error message ?
And in addition should remove the /PROCESS logicals of the user$disk and user_disk:
deassign/process user$disk
deassign/process user_disk

Your directory is not in $1$DGA1:[ERDEMIR_VMS],
but supposedly in $1$DGA1:[USER.ERDEMIR_VMS].

The real problem still is the wrong definition of USER_DISK.
deassign/system user_disk
and do
define/system/exec/trans=(conceal,terminal) user_disk $1$DGA1:

And at all either get rid of user_disk at all:
the disk $1$DGA1 gets a (concealed,terminal) logical associated at MOUNT time, usually DISK$label , where "label" is the volume label of of $1$DGA1; use SHOW DEVICE $1$DGA1: to see the volume label.

So either use this logical in the definition of disk$user
or better define disk$user as
define/system/exec/trans=conceal disk$user $1$DGA1:[user.]

and even better, don't use the logical disk$user, because this will be in conflict with a possible disk volume labeled "USER".