HPE Alletra initialize system

[daliborazure]

HI

We are about to acquire new HPE Alletra MP system but in all documentation I couldnt find how to initialize system on which port and if there is any IP address setup initially to connect this is how it is done on HPE Synergy where address is 192.168.10.1 and then via browser you assign IP address on your computer and this is how you connect to Synergy to initialize it

But for alletra there is nothing like that anyone has initial IP address or if i use discovery tool it says computer and storage have to be in the same subnet what subnet that would be and is initialization done via service port

[buzzsubash]

Have you tried checking https://support.hpe.com/hpesc/public/docDisplay?docId=psg000248aen_us&page=GUID-890254C7-D1DF-4542-BF27-2989A2BCC81D.html ?

[Cali]

Also https://infosight.hpe.com/welcomecenter/ Guide you Step by Step to the Setup Path.

Regarding the first Connect:

If you have bought the Bluetooth Dongle, I would use it with the HPE Storage App for Easy Setup.
If not, you can use the Discovery Tool.

Cali

[daliborazure]

Yes i did but it doesnt specify where to connect whether to network port service port it just talks about Green lake but not physical connection

[daliborazure]

Yes i did that but when it comes to phisical installation it requires special account and it doesnt allow me to log in unless I am HPE employee which I am not

[daliborazure]

ok i was able to login but it still doesnt show how to use laptop to initialize aray it doesnt specify do we need service port or what port is used for initial discovery

For example for Synergy you connect to service port

[daliborazure]

these documents are quite uselles no pertinent information unless someone really does them correctly

How do I initialize array with laptop which port i need connection with laptop which subnet array is

[daliborazure]

do you know if this need special secret account because some sections say you need to log in I log in my support account and browser just doesnt do anything

Is this special secreat account needed to see this page or this is classified

[Cali]

Hello,

as you can see, in the Upright Corner, I can Open the Welcome Center, without any Login:

The Discovery Tool (or Bluetooth), the Link to Download Software, and the Documentation are explained here.

Also here you will find a detailed Video for Cabling:

No secret account is needed and no classified Information.
https://infosight.hpe.com/welcomecenter

Cali

[daliborazure]

[Cali]

6010 is a Nimble Storage, not an MP.

For MP choose "Alletra Storage MP B10000".

[daliborazure]

it requires special account or special person I dont understand but would be beneficial to see that document

Should I ask HPE to open me new account or how does this work

[daliborazure]

I can open it too but half of the way of video it requires special account not sure what this is

[Cali]

I can verify this for the Alletra 6030 (Nimble) Storage.
But you wrote, that you have an Alletra MP, in that case, you have to select "Alletra MP B10000" first.

And for this Model, I can successfully view all Videos, without login.

So, first be sure, if you have an Alletra MP or Alletra 6030. 

[daliborazure]

When I come to MP alletra then it doesnt allow me to see cabling

[Cali]

That's true, it seems that something is broken here and needs to be fixed by HPE.

But you can Download the Installation Guide in the Top Right, that works for me without login?

[daliborazure]

do you underestand this statement

Connecting your computer to the same subnet as the storage system
About this task
The computer you use to perform the initialization of the storage system must be on the same subnet and switch as the storage system.
Procedure
1. To connect your computer to the same physical LAN switch as the HPE storage system controllers connected their Admin ports to :
Connect a standard Cat5e cable from your computer NIC to the same physical LAN switch that the controllers are connected to.

They say same subnet but they dont specify there are millions of possible subnets for example 192.168.0.0/24 is one subnet but 192.168.1.0/24 is another subnet

If i discover system with laptop I guess I have to put the cable into service port none of HPE documentation specifies that they just say open the tool but hard to imagine that without any cables it will discover

[daliborazure]

do you understand this statemnent

Connecting your computer to the same subnet as the storage system
About this task
The computer you use to perform the initialization of the storage system must be on the same subnet and switch as the storage system.
Procedure
1. To connect your computer to the same physical LAN switch as the HPE storage system controllers connected their Admin ports to :
Connect a standard Cat5e cable from your computer NIC to the same physical LAN switch that the controllers are connected to.

First it doesnt say that we need to connect cable and it is hard to imagine without connecting laptop with some port on array it will communicate

Second it says connect to the same subnet but it doesnt say what subnet for example if i understand networking correctly 192.168.0.0/24 is one subnet but 192.168.1.0/24 is another subnet

it just say same subnet what does that mean

[Cali]

You are right, I think that is misleading, I think what is meant is the following:
Assume you connect the Management Ports to Switch ports 1 and 2 and your Laptop to Port 3 then, ports 1-3 have to be in the same VLAN or have no VLAN.
If Port 1&2 is in VLAN 100 and Port 3 in VLAN 101 you are unable to connect.
In the other case, the Multicast DNS (mDNS) search of the Discovery Tool will not find the Storage.

Alternatively, you can directly connect the laptop to the top management port and set your Laptop NIC to DHCP.
In that case, the Laptop should get an IP from the Storage Controller.
Then use the Discovery Tool.

Do not use/connect the Service Port, as you wrote, this is a Serial Port with CAT Connector, use the Management Port (Left Labeled: Admin).

(I prefer to use the BT Dongle and Mobile App.)

Cali

[daliborazure]

Ya I am aware that HPE doesnt have employees who are good with documentation most likely students who never even saw the system in action

When i start installing this system I was wondering there is a port that I connect to array directly no switches just direct

Like in HPE synergy I connect to service port which is RJ 45 type in my browser4 192.168.10.1 and I am connected initial discovery via switches will certainly fail 

You are right if we buy USB dongle then it is easy to do it with phone but in case that we didnt I expected direct connection from laptop to array and start discovering not sure why they made it so complicated

[Cali]

>> When i start installing this system I was wondering there is a port that I connect to array directly no switches just direct.

You can do that.
Plug the Cable in Admin Port and strait to your Laptop.
The Laptop will get an IP and you can start Discover the Storage.

[daliborazure]

you mean it will get 169 IP address because if it is in admin port no DHCP server so the only thing it can get is 169  and then later I can assign IP of the array that I need

[Cali]

In that case, Alletra offers an IP to the Client.
I assume that temporarily a small DHCP server is running on the Alletra for this purpose.

Anyway, somehow it works, because I did it that way too.

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