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Resetting RSS Disk State to Mirrored?

 
Joe Hegyi
Advisor

Resetting RSS Disk State to Mirrored?

Our EVA 5000 has 2 storage groups, each with 48 72GB drives. After adding the additional drives, the RSS Disk state for both pools shows as None, where it was mirrored before. How can I get it back to mirrored?

Thanks,
Joe
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Re: Resetting RSS Disk State to Mirrored?

You have to check how all the RSS Sets are distribute above the disk shelfs (with locate). Afterwards you have to change the disks so that you have only one disk from one RSS Set per Shelf. This has to be done when the storage system is down.
See:
Mirrored - No mirrored pairs in an RSS are on the same shelf
Parity - No two members off an RSS are on the same shelf, Implying SRC Mirrored
None - indicates that some disks from one RSS Set are located on the same shelf, and a higher potential for data loss.
Joe Hegyi
Advisor

Re: Resetting RSS Disk State to Mirrored?

The EVA can't figure this out on it's own? So every time I add disks to the EVA, I have to go through this? If so, that's pretty bad.
Uwe Zessin
Honored Contributor

Re: Resetting RSS Disk State to Mirrored?

I think we would need to take a detailled look at the configuration before making such a statement.

Assume you add a single disk drive enclosure with 8 new disks. Then you create a disk group from these disks. Of course the RSS state will be None, because the EVA has no chance to get around this.
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Joe Hegyi
Advisor

Re: Resetting RSS Disk State to Mirrored?

Uwe,

If that's the case, is there somewhere that shows exactly how disks should be added to maintain the best RSS Disk State? I find the lack this type of information on the EVA very frustrating.

Thanks,
Joe
Uwe Zessin
Honored Contributor

Re: Resetting RSS Disk State to Mirrored?

Hello Joe,
a disk group should always be spread (vertically) over as many disk drive enclosures as possible and then grow horizontally (sorry, english is not my mother's language - I hope it makes sense).

If you add additional disk drive enclosures, then I would try to add new disks from them to existing disk groups. If you still need to create a new disk group I would wait for the leveling to complete and then remove the required number of disk drives equally from the enclosures.

Again, I don't know what your array looks like and what its history was, so I cannot comment on your situation.
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Steven Clementi
Honored Contributor

Re: Resetting RSS Disk State to Mirrored?

Unfortunately, I do not think there is an esay way to view the RSS sets, though I think there may be an internal utility that does this or possibly through SSSU.

Even though HP states that you should just populate your disk shelves and add all the disks at once, I find that I can get better results by following a few guidelines...

1. Always add ONLY the drives you need to add to ONE disk group at a time. If you have 8 shelves and you have 2 groups of 16 disk and you want to add 8 more disks into each group... install 8 new disks and add them to the first group, then install the next 8 and add them to the second group. ALWAYS spread your new disks across all the shelves.

2. IF you have an uneven number of disks in a group... 8 shelves and 15 disks in the group, install the first disk in the shelf that only has one disk from the group and add it to the group, then add the rest of the disks for THAT group you want to add to following the above.

3. Always add disks in groups of 8, especially if you have a disk group which is already 8 disks or divisable by 8.

4. Don't mix drive sizes. Even though there should not be any performance issues, it makes the life of the controllers easier to manage the group, and perhaps increasing performance (even if only .5%).


And your right, I don't recall any specific information being presented on this. The best Practice guide SHOULD contain info like this, even though RSS is an internal (to the controller) operation that the end-user usually does not need to know about. Educating the end-user is important especially when it can effect the security of their data.


Steven
Steven Clementi
HP Master ASE, Storage, Servers, and Clustering
MCSE (NT 4.0, W2K, W2K3)
VCP (ESX2, Vi3, vSphere4, vSphere5, vSphere 6.x)
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NPP3 (Nutanix Platform Professional)
Uwe Zessin
Honored Contributor

Re: Resetting RSS Disk State to Mirrored?

Recent versions of CV-EVA provide an RSS [LOCATE] button.

Else you have to go over the disks and pickup the RSS-Id and Index as well as the Loop_ID. You can then map the disk drives to RSSes and bays, provided that all disk drives have a hardware-assigned Loop_ID.

Mixing drive sizes can have a performance impact, because a bigger drive will store proportionally more data. Of course that will cause more I/Os to this disk. On the other hand - it can make sense to do this and pool the I/Os from different virtual disks to one disk group. See the 'best practices guide' or a recent 'User Guide' as this information has been included there.
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Joe Hegyi
Advisor

Re: Resetting RSS Disk State to Mirrored?

Ok - here's the layout of my EVA 5000
(A is Pool1, B is Pool2, x are empty bays)

S11-AAAAxxxBBxxxxx
S10-AAAAAAABBBBBBB
S09-AAAAAAABBBBBBB
S08-AAAAAABBBBBBBB
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S04-AAAAxxxBBxxxxx
S03-AAAAAAABBBBBBB
S02-AAAAAAABBBBBBB
S01-AAAAAABBBBBBBB

I believe the original config was S01,S02,S03 & S08,S09,S10, with only slot 14 on S01 & S08 empty. Does this help?

Thanks,
Joe
Joe Hegyi
Advisor

Re: Resetting RSS Disk State to Mirrored?

Adding shelves S04 & S11 are what changed the RSS state to none.
Urban Petry
Valued Contributor

Re: Resetting RSS Disk State to Mirrored?

Another easier way to find out RSS-membership <-> physical Disk correlation is to look at the "Diskgroup Redundant Storage Set Placement:" section of the C:\hsvev\output\\configinfo.txt file, which is updated regularly by EVE on the management appliance. If you have heartbeat mails enabled, this file is even mailed to you every day.

From there you can easily see why the RSS Disk state doesn't have the desired value and find the disks that have to be swapped.

Urban
Steven Clementi
Honored Contributor

Re: Resetting RSS Disk State to Mirrored?

Uwe: Is RSS Locate in CV3.2 or better? I don't remember seeing anything like it in 3.1 and I haven't had the oppurtunity to see VC 3.2 yet.



Steven
Steven Clementi
HP Master ASE, Storage, Servers, and Clustering
MCSE (NT 4.0, W2K, W2K3)
VCP (ESX2, Vi3, vSphere4, vSphere5, vSphere 6.x)
RHCE
NPP3 (Nutanix Platform Professional)
Joe Hegyi
Advisor

Re: Resetting RSS Disk State to Mirrored?

Urban,

I don't find that directory or file anywhere on my SMA. I'm running an SMA III with CV 3.1.

Joe
Uwe Zessin
Honored Contributor

Re: Resetting RSS Disk State to Mirrored?

It is on the disk properties page. I have seen it in CV-EVA V3.1, but I can't show a picture right now, sorry.
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Uwe Zessin
Honored Contributor

Re: Resetting RSS Disk State to Mirrored?

Here is a screen-capture from CV-EVA V3.2. The output of V3.1 is similar.
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