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Ian Foster
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11i upgrade - memory overhead

We are about to upgrade our N class 9000 production server from HP-UX 11.00 to 11i.

I have read that there is an increase in system overhead for this upgrade, particularly for memory.

Can anybody in HP land quantify this overhead or increase (even a ball-park figure would be appreciated).

We have something in the order of 8Gb of physical memory in the system and do not really anticipate this being an issue but I would like to have a better idea of the nature of this increase.
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Mike Fisher_5
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Re: 11i upgrade - memory overhead

Hi Ian

I was researching a similar question recently

I found this thread got me going along the right path

http://forums.itrc.hp.com/cm/QuestionAnswer/1,,0x0a3ceea29889d611abdb0090277a778c,00.html

Have you tried searching this forum?
keywords such as:
upgrade, 11i, memory

Produces LOADS of results

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Mike
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Steven E. Protter
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Re: 11i upgrade - memory overhead

I have read in the trade publications that the minimum amount of memory you want to run a production environment on 11i is 2 Gig.

I've played around with 1 Gig systems with 2 Gig of swap and it does work, but the workload you can get out of those machines is less than the same machines on 11.00.

My work was on D class servers. N Class does have a faster cpu and might have better results.

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A. Clay Stephenson
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Re: 11i upgrade - memory overhead

This is one of those "it depends" answers. The only time I've found that more memory was really needed for 11.11 is boxes (like little A180's with about 256MB; in that case increasing to 512MB really helps). I've found that typically the OS memory requirements increase by something like 60-100MB - no big deal if you have lots of memory but if you start with 256MB then it is a big deal.

The other big difference is that typically optimum buffer cache on 11.0 was somewhere around 400MB; on 11.11 anywhere from 800MB to 1200MB is optimum.

From these two observations, if you now have 500-600MB free under 11.0, you will be fine under 11.11.

Finally (and this could be the big one), if you were running Oracle raw disk (or the OnlineJFS equivalent convsync=direct,mincache=direct), you will find that Oracle does better under 11.11 with "cooked" files; if you intentionally had limited buffer cache to allow larger SGA's then you could need more memory.
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