D370 running 11.11 and oracle10g ......can it work??

[Annelise Wilken]

Hello,

I've been tasked to find a test box for our production team and I have found an old D370 that we no longer need, I've been asked to install 11.11 on it and also oracle10g .... I've looked on the HP website and see that I can install 11.11 - however the documentation says 32bit and 64bit support .... I thought D370 were just 32bit??? Also, I'm concerned that oracle10g won't run ..... whilst I know it will run on 11.11 I though it needed 64bit architecture .... so I'm confused .... will it all work?????

Many thanks in advance!
Cheers!

[Jeff Schussele]

HI Annelise,

Any K-class ending in 70 or 80 will support 64-bit OS.
Anything less cannot.
So - yes - you can do this, BUT I believe that Oracle 10g would likely run fairly slow on this old, slow CPU & bus system & not being able to run PCI cards in it won't help out with I/O to boot.
I would probably recommend this type system for Development because if they can code such that it's not completely bogged down then it ought to fly on newer, faster systems.

My 2 cents,
Jeff

[Annelise Wilken]

Many thanks for your prompt reply Jeff - will pass info on, can I just say that the server I've got is a D class - would this make any further difference?

Cheers.

[A. Clay Stephenson]

A D370 (or D380 or D390) will run either 32-bit or 64-bit HP-UX 11.11; if you are running 64-bit HP-UX then any EISA-based cards in the box should be removed. One of the main limitations that you are going to run into is the maximum 3GB of memory -- which is considered tiny to run Oracle 10.

[Florian Heigl (new acc)]

The smaller/older D-Class systems only had 32bit PA-7xx00 CPUs, but the newer ones like Yours definitely are able to run 64bit-code, which is required by oracle9i and above.

As already said, the memory *might* be a problem, but from experience You'll be ok with anything >1 GB for a test system; it depends on what they are planning... RAC and lots of PL/SQL code are not to recommed :)

Do assess Your I/O cards in the system

- EISA card's won't work and You really won't enjoy them. (too limited in IO)
- if there is a GSC->PCI Mux (shows up in ioscan), You'll be fine for most upgrades
- both GSC and PCI cards should show suitable performance.

On the other hand...
A rp3410 or rp3440 will do a lot more for You.

[Steven E. Protter]

Shalom Annelise,

I agree that a D370 with memory maxed out will run Oracle 10G database with sluggish but acceptable performance.

We are running 10g Database servers running in labs on similar hardware with as little as 1 GB of RAM.

Runs pretty slow though, I'd go for 3 GB as A. Clay recommends.

SEP

[A. Clay Stephenson]

Your D370 has at least one PA-8000 (64-bit) processor; that is what enables it to run 64-bit HP-UX and 64-bit executables like Oracle. The next lower model, the DX60 uses a PA-7200 processor and will only run 32-bit code.

One can make a strong case for using a dog like this for development and test. If the code runs well enough on this resource-limited box then chances are quite good that the production code (presumably on a better box) will scale up well.

[gsb_2]

I'm running oracle 10g on a D390 with 1 gig of memory. Slow, really needs two gig but just for testing it works fine.

Greg

[Annelise Wilken]

Thanks for the responses I'll take them on board.

Will close this thread.

Cheers.

[Annelise Wilken]

As per earlier notes.