diff between Technical OE and Mission Critical OX on HPUX 11i

[Saurabh Kapoor_2]

Hi,
I have an application which I need to install on HPUX11i.In the documentation for installing the application it says that Mission Critical OE should be installed. I have alread 11i Technical COmputin OE running and this is going to be a test system.As far as I can understand the Mission Critical OE is more for HA support etc. Aprt from that what could be other issues I could un into if I try to install the application on Technical OE.
Thanks
Saurabh

[James R. Ferguson]

Hi:

You *can* install individual applications on top of an OE or purchase the whole OE. You will need to ascertain the cost of the software license(s) to decide if ordering a different OE is less expensive or not.

Regards!

...JRF...

[Patrick Wallek]

Check out the HP-UX 11i OE site here:
http://www.hp.com/products1/unix/operating/choice/index.html

Therre aren't any differences, as far as I know, in the actual HP-UX kernel between TCOE and MCOE. But there are differences in some other products that get installed. If your app requires one of these other products, then you could have problems.

[Sridhar Bhaskarla]

Hi Saurabh,

There are other things like Process Resource Manager, Servicecontrol Manager etc, that come with Critical OE in addition to HA support. If your application is looking for any of them, then probably you will lose some or all of that functionality.

You can always try installing it and see what happens. It will be difficult to say what problems you will run into with it as we don't have the knowledge about your application.

Details are available at this page

http://docs.hp.com/hpux/os/11i/index.html

Click the HP-UX 11i Operating Environments link.

-Sri

[Brian M Rawlings]

If you are looking for the "zero cost" OS, I'd suggest the "Internet OE", rather than the "Technical Computing OE", unless you need the special SW items you get only in the TCOE:

Visualize Conference
MPI Message Passing Interface
MLIB Multiprocessing Library
Java 3D
FirstSpace VRML Viewer
3D Graphics

These are all things you won't get with the MCOE, so I don't really think you want them. I think you are wanting to use a no-cost OE for your test/lab system, which would normally be the "Internet" or "Standard" OE. This includes all normal HP-UX functions & drivers, LVM, etc, but no "for cost" items. You can add individual "for cost" items, like Mirrordisk/UX or Glance+, rather than paying for them all in the higher OE bundles.

So, go for the Standard OE, and then, if you want to play with mirroring, or clustering, or performance monitoring in your test/lab envirionment, just buy those individual items (Mirrordisk, MC/Serviceguard, Glance+Pac, etc).

I suspect that your application instructions mean that, for PRODUCTION, they want all the HA features provided in the MCOE. I'd be highly surprised if they developed the app on a MCOE machine, development rarely needs that kind of HA. Test systems only need these things if they are involved in what you are testing. Or, if you want to, say, mirror the boot drives just to save aggravation for yourself.

One final note... all the "cost" items are "per CPU". It might actually end up being cheaper to buy a small single- or dual-processor LAB box, like an RP2405 2-way, than to buy SW licenses for a bigger box with more CPUs.

[Cheryl Griffin]

This page lists software products delivered with HP-UX 11i OS and
operating environments (OEs).

http://www.software.hp.com/RELEASES-MEDIA/latest/osoe/11i/0302history.htm

Cheryl

[Steven E. Protter]

Mission critical is the high end , big Enterprise type environment with all the bells and whistles.

Among the important features.

glance
onlinejfs
prm(process management)
Mirror/UX
Service Guard(I think).

Pretty much any HP add in that admins might want to have are in the Mission critical package.

Its licenses by CPU

There is an incrementally more affordable package called the Enterprise OE, which doesn't quite include everything.

We're budgeted for that this year.

SEP